CW Dooku Vs CW Grievous

Started by Sin Harvest8 pages

I mean, in the ROTJ Luke vs Dooku you talk about how the movies should overrule the other sources, but when it comes to the CW it overrules the movies way of fighting????

Originally posted by kamikz
No, the CW does overpower. How can it show "true potential" when the films show that they aren't this good? Has Lucas said himself that it would look stupid if he made them that good?

Don't be so naive. It's obvious that having a live action Sam Jackson flying hundreds of feet in the air and moving like a blur would look stupid, it doesn't need Lucas' comment to make that so.

Originally posted by kamikz
Besides, does it look stupid when Yoda lifts that tube in AOTC? No. Is it then true that Assaj ripped out and tossed one of those with ease when Yoda had to struggle?

Yoda was [i[trying to stop[/i] an object that was already in motion. That would make it harder than moving objects at rest.

Originally posted by kamikz
You see, not only the speed is overpowered but their force abilities as well, and we've seen people in the movies utalize such powers and it does NOT look stupid....

Really? When Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan used Force speed to escape the droidekas, that did indeed, look stupid. I wonder why none of the other films showed such speeds...? Probably because Lucas saw how bad it sucked the first time and actually learned from the mistake.

Originally posted by kamikz
I mean, in the ROTJ Luke vs Dooku you talk about how the movies should overrule the other sources, but when it comes to the CW it overrules the movies way of fighting????

I never said that at all. The CW is considered as canon here. It is not as high as the movies, but it has not actually contradicted the movies, so I don't see the point you're trying to make.

Really? When Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan used Force speed to escape the droidekas, that did indeed, look stupid. I wonder why none of the other films showed such speeds...? Probably because Lucas saw how bad it sucked the first time and actually learned from the mistake.

Umm...no it didn't.

Yoda was [i[trying to stop[/i] an object that was already in motion. That would make it harder than moving objects at rest.

And yet Yoda had no trouble throwing around Cruisers that were in motion.

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
I mean, in the ROTJ Luke vs Dooku you talk about how the movies should overrule the other sources,

Be more accurate. In the other thread, I said that the movies overrule other non canon sources. CW is accepted here as canon.

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
but when it comes to the CW it overrules the movies way of fighting????

Not at all. I never said that at all. I just said that the events of Clone Wars are considered canon. There isn't a movie of the CW, so the cartoon is not contradicting a movie.

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Don't be so naive. It's obvious that having a live action Sam Jackson flying hundreds of feet in the air and moving like a blur would look stupid, it doesn't need Lucas' comment to make that so.

Yoda was [i[trying to stop[/i] an object that was already in motion. That would make it harder than moving objects at rest.

Really? When Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan used Force speed to escape the droidekas, that did indeed, look stupid. I wonder why none of the other films showed such speeds...? Probably because Lucas saw how bad it sucked the first time and actually learned from the mistake.

I never said that at all. The CW is considered as canon here. It is not as high as the movies, but it has not actually contradicted the movies, so I don't see the point you're trying to make.

No, just because YOU think it looks ridicilous doesn't mean it does, apparently neither me or ESB thinks it looks ridicilous....

Lol, Anakin pushed away that tube when Assaj had TOSSED it against him, Yoda was just trying to lift a tube that was slowly falling down. Anakin pushed it like it was nothing, and Assaj ripped it of the platform and tossed it away fast and long. If it was that easy, no matter if or if it wasn't in motion, Yoda could have easily done the same, but he couldn't. And now we are not even mentioning when Dooku is FLYING in the CW....

Originally posted by kamikz
No, just because YOU think it looks ridicilous doesn't mean it does, apparently neither me or ESB thinks it looks ridicilous....

And where was Jedi Speed used in ESB? Where Luke jumped out of the Carbonite chamber?
Sorry, but yes, that did stretch the boundaries of what was believable by manipulating a live actor.

Originally posted by kamikz
No, just because YOU think it looks ridicilous doesn't mean it does, Lol, Anakin pushed away that tube when Assaj had TOSSED it against him,
Which tube would that be? In CW, they only fought on Yavin, and I don't remember any tubes being thrown, or objects being thrown suddenly being deflected... Anakin was however hit by a lot of the stuff that Assajj threw at him, and also blocked a lot of it with his lightsaber.

Originally posted by kamikz
If it was that easy, no matter if or if it wasn't in motion, Yoda could have easily done the same, but he couldn't.

No, an object in motion would be more difficult, because there would be its existing innertia and momentum to nullify before reversing it's course.

Originally posted by kamikz
And now we are not even mentioning when Dooku is FLYING in the CW....

Flying... Let's see. He glided own from the viewing balcony, having levitated himself over a meter high wall. That hardly constitute's flying. If a Jedi can use the Force to levitate objects, then why not use it to levitate themself? You saw the Force Assisted jumps that Obi-Wan made in TPM, it's no different.

Originally posted by Darth Vious
And where was Jedi Speed used in ESB? Where Luke jumped out of the Carbonite chamber?
Sorry, but yes, that did stretch the boundaries of what was believable by manipulating a live actor.

Which tube would that be? In CW, they only fought on Yavin, and I don't remember any tubes being thrown, or objects being thrown suddenly being deflected... Anakin was however hit by a lot of the stuff that Assajj threw at him, and also blocked a lot of it with his lightsaber.

No, an object in motion would be more difficult, because there would be its existing innertia and momentum to nullify before reversing it's course.

Flying... Let's see. He glided own from the viewing balcony, having levitated himself over a meter high wall. That hardly constitute's flying. If a Jedi can use the Force to levitate objects, then why not use it to levitate themself? You saw the Force Assisted jumps that Obi-Wan made in TPM, it's no different.

Lol no I meant ESB/Sin Harvest. His last name was ESB 132, something like that, forgot he changed name....

She tossed a huge pillar that Anakin pushed away with ease, roughly the size of that Yoda liften in AOTC....

He didn't jump at all, he just flew himself over that wall, then slowly down. Apparently he could fly upwards.... If jedi could lift themselves then why didn't Sidious do that in ROTJ? He has tons of more force knowledge than Dooku. Or Yoda when he fell down from that pod. If they could lift themselfse they would not fear heights.....

Originally posted by Darth Vious
And where was Jedi Speed used in ESB? Where Luke jumped out of the Carbonite chamber?
Sorry, but yes, that did stretch the boundaries of what was believable by manipulating a live actor.

Which tube would that be? In CW, they only fought on Yavin, and I don't remember any tubes being thrown, or objects being thrown suddenly being deflected... Anakin was however hit by a lot of the stuff that Assajj threw at him, and also blocked a lot of it with his lightsaber.

No, an object in motion would be more difficult, because there would be its existing innertia and momentum to nullify before reversing it's course.

Flying... Let's see. He glided own from the viewing balcony, having levitated himself over a meter high wall. That hardly constitute's flying. If a Jedi can use the Force to levitate objects, then why not use it to levitate themself? You saw the Force Assisted jumps that Obi-Wan made in TPM, it's no different.

dooku wuld win. he taught grievous. dooku has alot of accuracy becuz hes a fencer. grievous is the faster 1 but that doesn't matter when u fight dooku. Dooku can basically see wat grievous will do before he does it.

Originally posted by ESB -1138

What the f*ck kind of a responce is that? You didn't even address a single point, and instead, posted a picture?? Also, I find it highly amusing that the picture is against liberal pussies, and when it comes to politics (something I won't even go into on this forum) I am far right wing, and hate liberals more than the English language has words to express.