Silver Surfer vs Gladiator, Superman, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Do you read any JLA ? If you dont i strongly reccomend the Mark Waid and Grant Morisson stuff beacuse its sublime. Since Grant Morisson started this JLA volume, Flash has NEVER, EVER been depicted as the most powerful JLA member. I'd love to know where you get all this 'Well written' information you keep referring to, beacuse on the whole, it doesn't get much better than Grant Morisson. 🙂

grant morrison in the man, but flash has been very upgraded he could take out supes.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I see what you're saying. But, in my opinion, even with all of the JLA written to their very best potential (No CIS/PIS/Plot Devices), Flash is still the most powerful and could take out the entire JLA, Superman and Martian Manhunter included.

i agree with all the members of the JLA except MM and GL, if MM phase can flahs steel steel his kinetic energy? can´t MM telepatacly stop flash? of course falash is damn fast, but MM could receuve some punchs give him time to phase anf fly and then use his mind, maybe he could win.

If a GL could start the fight using a force field so he wouldn´t be KO, then i´m not seeing him loose.

Originally posted by olympian
Im not arguing for a Surfers example now, the same way i wasent up there.

So that basis of you asking me "proof" is disregarded. Glad to know you admited being off charts tho. Nice going.

Four BA owning. That was a good one.

So as usual, no proof?

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
5 people ? Bollocks ! .... I'll agree that the general consensus from D.C. writers is that Jonn could beat him and Orion would probably stalemate him on a good day, but there is no one else there who could . I disagree with the idea that any Green lantern would destroy him (A fallucy that is of popular opppinion on this forum), because it really isn't the case. If Superman is not fighting Wonder woman in her own book, she's rarely ever holding her own and Flash and steel dont really stand a chance (Unless Flash is doing the Infinite mass thing.) 🙂

GL can creat kryptonite with his ring, it already happened, supes lost.

Originally posted by Cubicks
I don't take it personal. And after reading it again I stick with what I said. You saying that DC fans have the ability to know when they are beat while Marvel fans are incapable of such a thing, in itself proves your better than thou attitude.

Your words, not mine. "DC fans" are in quotations for a reason.

Originally posted by leonidas
what the hell is happening in this thread . . .?

😑

The usual olympian sillyness. He debates everything but the actual debate...and on top of that has no proof of anything. Whether they be herald level, or "WW" level.... just showing something with multiple mid tier-top tier characters being beaten by SS at once.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Your words, not mine. "DC fans" are in quotations for a reason.

Those were your words, see how I quoted them in the original post? I know why you quote "DC fans" and that had nothing to do with my point. And again in your words, "Try reading it again."

Originally posted by Cubicks
Those were your words, see how I quoted them in the original post? I know why you quoted "DC fans" and that had nothing to do with my point. And again in your words, "Try reading it again."

Originally posted by Cubicks
Those were your words, see how I quoted them in the original post? I know why you quote "DC fans" and that had nothing to do with my point. And again in your words, "Try reading it again."

Try reading it yet again then. It's obvious you took it personal since you just had to comment on it. If you didn't...you'd be indifferent.

Anyway... I'm going back to topic. If you didn't like my comment...that's on you.

Originally posted by Loot
grant morrison in the man, but flash has been very upgraded he could take out supes.

i agree with all the members of the JLA except MM and GL, if MM phase can flahs steel steel his kinetic energy? can´t MM telepatacly stop flash? of course falash is damn fast, but MM could receuve some punchs give him time to phase anf fly and then use his mind, maybe he could win.

If a GL could start the fight using a force field so he wouldn´t be KO, then i´m not seeing him loose.

I don't see why Flash couldn't still steel J'onn's speed. It's a speed force ability, and that alone already makes it more powerful than J'onn. Besides, Flash could decimate him with dozens of IMPs before J'onn could do a thing. There was a JLA comic (can't remember which one right now), but Flash moves so fast helping out two different teams that appears in both places at once. He's moving so fast, in fact, that he's able to look at himself through a magically-created two-way portal of which the two teams happen to be at opposite sides. It's pretty nuts.

See, now you're just giving GL prep time. Sure, if he's already got his shield up or something, like that, it'd be pretty hard for Flash to do anything. But that doesn't seem very fair to me. At the speeds at which Flash travels, the GL would never have enough time to get a shield up that fast. Flash could do all sorts of things to take out a GL before they can even make a move.

"The usual olympian sillyness. He debates everything but the actual debate...and on top of that has no proof of anything. Whether they be herald level, or "WW" level.... just showing something with multiple mid tier-top tier characters being beaten by SS at once."

I dont have to back up anything related to Surfer because i never made a claim about him whatsoever. I infer about yours since its so exageratted that made me laugh so hard, and spilled my drink. Since you cant pay me off another, thats my way of getting back at you.

Superman didnt owned four BA level guys and Surfer isent going to win this.

Now, go back to exageratting showings at your whim. You have my blessing.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
See, now you're just giving GL prep time. Sure, if he's already got his shield up or something, like that, it'd be pretty hard for Flash to do anything. But that doesn't seem very fair to me. At the speeds at which Flash travels, the GL would never have enough time to get a shield up that fast. Flash could do all sorts of things to take out a GL before they can even make a move.

8/10, a GL would already have up his shield aura. That alone grants him a very high degree of durability.

Originally posted by jrodslam
8/10, a GL would already have up his shield aura. That alone grants him a very high degree of durability.

But that would be giving him an unfair prep advantage in this fight, wouldn't you say?

Anyway. Constructs have been broken before, they can be broken again.

umm no. GLs have that life sustaining auto shield. It works without the users knowledge of it

With enough constant bashing on the shield, it can be destroyed.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I posted this before the original thread was edited. Originally, it was just normal Martian Manhunter. But it's cool, you didn't know that.

😮

Originally posted by Metalmanx
With enough constant bashing on the shield, it can be destroyed.

So Flash can create more force than a big bang now? 😐

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But that would be giving him an unfair prep advantage in this fight, wouldn't you say?

Anyway. Constructs have been broken before, they can be broken again.

Its not really prep. Its usually automatic when the wearer is in GL mode and or flying.

True. Constructs have been broken in the past. There has also been times where the constructs hold up to the most severe of testings.

Originally posted by olympian
"The usual olympian sillyness. He debates everything but the actual debate...and on top of that has no proof of anything. Whether they be herald level, or "WW" level.... just showing something with multiple mid tier-top tier characters being beaten by SS at once."

I dont have to back up anything related to Surfer because i never made a claim about him whatsoever. I infer about yours since its so exageratted that made me laugh so hard, and spilled my drink. Since you cant pay me off another, thats my way of getting back at you.

Superman didnt owned four BA level guys and Surfer isent going to win this.

Now, go back to exageratting showings at your whim. You have my blessing.

Well then, you may want to learn how to drink. 😉
I'm laughing now because as usual you are wasting everyones time and have nothing to show for it except for some silly word play. You may want to use some time to learn how to quote.

Until then.. take care. 🙂

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Try reading it yet again then. It's obvious you took it personal since you just had to comment on it. If you didn't...you'd be indifferent.

Anyway... I'm going back to topic. If you didn't like my comment...that's on you.

I did not take it personally. What I do take personally is you arrogance that I seemed to have missed something. You and I both know what was meant by the comment and I called you on it. If you haven't the courage to back up the statement, then you shouldn't have said it to begin with. The best you have done is an attempt to mock me with "Read it again" responses. Ramble all you want about the whether or not I took it personally, that does not change what YOU typed and what YOU meant.

Originally posted by Cubicks
I did not take it personally. What I do take personally is you arrogance that I seemed to have missed something. You and I both know what was meant by the comment and I called you on it. If you haven't the courage to back up the statement, then you shouldn't have said it to begin with. The best you have done is an attempt to mock me with "Read it again" responses. Ramble all you want about the whether or not I took it personally, that does not change what YOU typed and what YOU meant.

blah blah...personal...etc etc.

So again back to topic...

Team wins 110/10