Originally posted by olympian
[QUOTE=6789124]Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
"and another one who never brings proof wasting our time and trying to divert proof as usual. Then again this guy was rooting for Hercules against Superman"Do you want to go over how many -close- matches Superman has won so far against his fellow top tiers? Because if you do, your a lost cause. Even more considering i never once claimed Herc would have reasonable chances against Superman unless its a close match.
As for this debate. Wow.
Just get the chip off your shoulder, and have the decency of aknowlege your wrong. Nobody has to bring proof when theres no stance to defend.
I would have if i had claimed Surfer has beat numerous guys on Thor level at the same time. I dont.
But guess what.
You claim Supes owned four guys in BA level alltogether with WW, and all at the same time. And used it as comparation measure in this debate. So i asked what i have yet to get the answer, because you dodge like a ballerina:
Where are the four BA level heroes, Supes owned in that figth?
Hold your breath. Your about to go "blah blah" again. We know Avalon, we know.
Good, you learned your place...similar to that of a well trained puppy.
"Blah Blah" but nothing to back it. As for the chip..YOU came in here with nothing to prove in a debate, but plenty of trash talking of your own.
Maybe you'll surprise me one day with some nice scans, some good points behind them and a coherent reply system using quotes.
"Blah Blah Blah"
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Originally posted by Mindship
Y'know, I'm not even gonna dispute what you're saying, cuz I'm not that confident of even 2/3 (btw, I'm not familiar with this "Fernus" fellow, either, but from what I've been reading, he appears to be one tough SOB).I'm leaning more and more towards your term, "overkill."
Cool. I was just curious since you usually have good reasons to back up your thoughts. 😄
Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Too easy for Silver Surfer, the Gladiator is the weakest so a cosmic blast will kill him. Wonder woman gets some superfast punches and that's taken care of and superman get some kind of a kryptonite beam.
Martian manhunter would indeed be the most difficult to defeat.
With all her weapons you think she'll be out of the match that quickly?
Originally posted by Rols
How else would you beat somebody, who is literally of equal power without using their weakness, specially if this someone gets a new set of power nearly every time he meets a new villain. Also im pretty sure SS CA and his acute senses would be able to detect what is real and what is not, this is a guy that can sense whats not right in the cosmic balance of things as shown in SS and Capt universe crossover and many other. Also why didnt Supes use T-vo in justice mini when he was being beaten, i mean with this kind of abilities he could defeat opponents a lot quicker than normal, unless this one of his powers that only shows up against certain villain 🙄 . By the way Supes cannot break him in half, in your dreams perhaps but the writters would not allow it.
Why doesn't Flash defeat all his villains before they blink? Why did LT allow Thanos to have any powers after IG and to get the HOTU? Same reason. Storyline. It's one of his lesser used, lesser known powers. SS senses are null there. Superman defeated a being that at the very least is above skyfather in level with it in a pretty awesome battle.
Originally posted by Rols
We dont know that do we and that will never happen the writter will not allow it because they dont have your sense of Superman can beat anyone fanboyism. Are we talking about Universe X series were absorbing man also took the rest of marvel superheroes is that desame guy your taking about because he was unstopabble in that series and thats why everyone lost to him.
Nope. It was in a defenders issue if I remember correctly. I'm taking my stuff on Supes...from the writers. If you go to any of the Superman respect threads, I post plenty of over the top feats for him, and many others have as well. If people choose to downplay them..that's their issue, not mine.
Originally posted by Rols
No i cant show it to you because his never done it, but that is what said on his Power abilities, being able to amp his strength through the use of pc 100+ in strength. Read it again i said THEORITICALLY, i did'nt say he could.
So your trying to make a case against Superman not being strong enough to take SS apart physically THEORETICALLY, but it's OK for SS to amp himself to Superman levels even if he's never done it?
Funny.
Originally posted by Rols
Nobody said SS could take out 4 black adam or WW tier character at the same time, that was just you. My reason why SS could defeat Supes is because of SS ability to manipulate Supes Weakness and put that together with his durability, ability to whip up shields, able to amplify strength and speed.
They are saying it in this forum. We have people here actually believing that SS can fight these characters at top levels at the same time.
I simply asked for a scan of SS fighting 4 people at Black Adam or WW level, and nothing has been provided.
Until then....Team 10002/10 (at least we agree SS loses horribly..theres hope for you there.)