CW Dooku and CW Grievous vs Rots Obi-Wan and Rots Anakin

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Lightsnake Senior Member

Meaning, what to this conversation? That's right, nothing.

It's not canon. Only the films are canon. Hypocrite

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Meaning, what to this conversation? That's right, nothing.

Meaning, I know more about fencing and martial arts than you do, therefore, I can analyse a fightscene better than you can.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's not canon. Only the films are canon. Hypocrite

How am I a hypocrite? What have I said that was hypocritical? Do you even understand what the word means?

I asked you a questions, and you will answer it.
Does LOE explain why Anakin's artificial arm is different in RotS to AotC?

As I said before, CW is accepted as canon on this forum. If you can't accept that, then stop debating.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Actually, you know nothing about real fighting, If you did, you'd realize there aren't rules when you fight for real

And I don't care. CW explains a lot of things but by LFL's OFFICIAL POLICY, it's not canon.

Lord Kadaj LOOK AT SIG.

Don't worry Vious, LightSnake is an idiot.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Love to see you back that up, Dajjy

Escape81 Restricted

I don't know who the hell you think you are Vious, but you're in no position to argue against LFL's canon policy. George Lucas is the highest form of canon. Like it or not. The policy remains that way. So, all of your arguments revolving the Dooku vs. Anakin issue are moot, worthless, and completely irrelevent.

Why? Because you think you're in a position to argue against a concrete policy. You're not. No one here is. Lucas is the final word. End of story.

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Kadaj
Don't worry Vious, LightSnake is an idiot.

He is indeed.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Translation: wAAAAH! I can't beat him! So I'll insult! Everyone but me is wrong! WAAAH! I am Vious! So that means Lucas must bow to me!

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Escape81
I don't know who the hell you think you are Vious, but you're in no position to argue against LFL's canon policy. George Lucas is the highest form of canon. Like it or not. The policy remains that way. So, all of your arguments revolving the Dooku vs. Anakin issue are moot, worthless, and completely irrelevent.

Why? Because you think you're in a position to argue against a concrete policy. You're not. No one here is. Lucas is the final word. End of story.


It would appear, that I'm one of the few people here who can actually see the truth as it is, rather than what a fanboy wants it to be.
As I said to LS already: CW is accepted as canon on this forum. It's in enough of the threads, so I don't see how he (or you) can deny that.
I've already pointed out that the movies are the highest form of canon, even over Lucas' 'final word', given SW evidence that proves this, and used an entirely seperate example of how a finished piece of artwork means more than it's creator's intentions when making it. People seem to have a problem with that, but I do not see why. I've argued plenty of points other than Dooku Vs Anakin, that is just the one that has been the most prevelent to the discussions.

Anyone can argue against policy if they can back up their argument with evidence, and I have done that. Just because people do not want to accept that (because it forces them to reevaluate their ideas) that does not make my points wrong.
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Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Translation: wAAAAH! I can't beat him! So I'll insult! Everyone but me is wrong! WAAAH! I am Vious! So that means Lucas must bow to me!

Insult? If you think I've insulted you, then you need to grow a thicker skin. You're the one getting your boxers in a bunch because you can't beat me. Remember how you tried to argue that Luke wasn't shot in his artificial hand in RotJ? What was the outcome of that? The result of all your posturing and certainty? You were wrong. You were wrong then, and you are wrong now. You refuse to answer questions that prove you wrong, and you don't back your arguments with valid facts. When faced with facts, you back down. I never said Lucas must bow to me, all I've pointed out, is that (as with any artist) the finished work means more than the intentions of the person who created it.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Whine, whine, whine...No, actually, the intentions of the person who created it kinda reflect what happened. End of story. If Lucas says it's so, that's how it happened.

And calling someone an idiot isn't an insult? You don't live on the same level as we do, do you?

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, actually, the intentions of the person who created it kinda reflect what happened. End of story. If Lucas says it's so, that's how it happened.

No, they don't. Here's the non-SW example I gave:
I intended to paint a photo-realistic scene of Mustafar and mount lightsabers on it. This was a photoshopped mockup of how I wanted the picture to turn out:

However, this, is how the final painting turned out:

As you can see, the landscape is not photo-realistic, and the effect of the lightsaber blades did not turn out as sharp as I wanted.
Now. It doesn't matter how much I say that I intended to do a photo-realistic painting, because nothing can change the fact that the finished piece is not photo-reaslistic. Therefore, my (or any artists) intentions are irrelevent compared to the evidence of the final artwork (or movie)

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And calling someone an idiot isn't an insult?

I never called you an idiot. Someone else called you an idiot and I agreed with them.

Lightsnake Senior Member

so, you called me an idiot, thanks.

And that means nothing. Nothing to do with, y'know, story

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
so, you called me an idiot, thanks.

No, I agreed with the person who called you an idiot. You're not very good at telling the difference between things are you.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And that means nothing. Nothing to do with, y'know, story

How do you figure? I intended to do something a certain way. The end result was not what I intended. No matter how much I talk about what I'd intended to do, nothing will change the fact that the final piece was not as I originally intended it to be.
What part of that do you disagree with?

Lightsnake Senior Member

...agreeing with someone calling me an idiot is the same thing as calling me an idiot yourself. The feeling is still there. The wording's just different.

Great. Nice example. Nope, no storyline. No movie, no motion picture, no explanation and interpretation of scenes and you use a visual example.

Try again

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
...agreeing with someone calling me an idiot is the same thing as calling me an idiot yourself.

No it's not.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Great. Nice example. Nope, no storyline. No movie, no motion picture, no explanation and interpretation of scenes and you use a visual example.

Try again


Are you serious? Ever heard the expression "A picture's worth a thousand words"? It doesn't matter if it's a painting, a movie, a sculpture or even a pencil doodle on a napkin. The opinion of any artist (whatever their chosen medium may be) is not as relevent as the evidence of the finished artwork.
Let's try again.
I intended to paint a photorealistic painting of Mustafar.
Is the end result photorealistic, yes or no?

Lightsnake Senior Member

"Yeah, he is an idiot!" Is what you basically said...you called me an idiot.

Is your picture a motion picture? No? why are you wasting my time with bullshit comparisons then?

Darth Vious Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
"Yeah, he is an idiot!" Is what you basically said...you called me an idiot.

That is not what I said though. Someone said you were an idiot. My responce was: Yes, he is.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
[BIs your picture a motion picture? No? why are you wasting my time with bullshit comparisons then? [/B]

I already pointed out that t doesn't matter what medium the artist works in! All that matters, is that nothing they can say, can change the final piece, or how it is viewed by others. Do you understand? Respond directly do you understand to the point I made in this post. Not do you agree, not do you think something else, do you understand the point I have just clarified?

Lightsnake Senior Member

Meaning you called me an idiot. Am I or am I not an idiot? he called me one, you agreed, your meaning is clear. Idiot.

screw that, the writer and director has grounds to say EXACTLY what his movie means.

Rampant ox Senior Member

Can we please get back on topic?
Im going to say my points once and ill try not to be too biased in Dookus favor. Dooku and GG win because of these reasons.
-Dooku alone was more than a match for Kenobi and he almost bet Anakin. He would have beaten Anakin had he not been so tired. So my point is if GG was there helping it would be a one on one match vs Anakin. So the Count wouldnt be tired in his fight with Anakin which means that he would win.
-Dooku can wtf pwn Kenobi
-It would be a close match between CW GG and Kenobi but GG would win. GGs reflexes are just too fast and too accurate. He would analyse Kenobis fighting style to fight with maximum efficiency. And GG took on 5 jedi masters and won. Kenobi is not better than 5 jedi masters so he will lose as well.
-IMO GG would beat Anakin. Anakin would simply get overwhelmed with all the blades coming at him.

So Dooku beats Kenobi and GG beats Anakin. If we swap the fighters around you will get a far closer battle but the sith still win.