RotJ Luke vs Count Dooku.

I want to see what people think. Who wins this?

Well, I love Luke Sjywalker, probably my favouriet character next to Mace, and the original Jedi. But Dooku tools him.

Blaxican is a shining ray of truth. Dooku tools his ass.

Dooku gets owned. Pretty hard

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Dooku gets owned. Pretty hard

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Always syicking out for the little guy huh Lightsnake? 😆

No.

LS you are a f*cking moron. Dooku is a master duelist. Luke is the inventor of the let's swing the lightsaber around like a retarded kid with a baseball bat form. Luke is pwned so badly Vader feels like he got raped in the ass afterwards.

And Razielim, you're a dumbass as well for even thinking this would be a fight.

And Dooku's master duelist stature didn't stop anakin from beating him, now did it? And twenty years after when Vader was even better, Luke was able to...what's the word...defeat him? Yep.

What was that, Darin? Something amusing?

Yeah! Luke's few weeks training from Yoda makes him better than someone who spent 70 years refining the ultimate form of lightsabre combat.

Duh!

Actually Saine, don't call me a dumbass, thanks. I know Luke gets WTFBBQOWNED but I know people would argue for him. Hence why I made the thread.

Just like it was able to beat the guy who had twenty years of Sith training, ten years becoming one of the strongest Jedi the Order'd seen...
Luke mastered a a saber in a matter of, what, four years?

Oh, and while I'm on the subject: Samuel L. Jackson is terrible with a saber...does this mean Mace sucks?

When Vader wasn't even putting up a fight. Yeah, the slugger sure owned there.

And Sam doesn't suck with a saber. At least, he's not as bad as Hamill. And he was good enough to beat Palpatine when Palpatine was putting up a fight and was trying to kill him.

Debatable for one and Neither McDiarmid or Jackson were capable of handling a weapon whatsoever. And let's not get into Yoda in AOTC...the actor's ability with the sword doesn't reflect on the character.

And no, Vader was trying to fight back, Luke was simply beating him

Right, beating? You did see that Luke was simply bashing his saber against Vader's at the end right? As well, in ROTS, Anakin has one, count it ONE mechanical limb, so he had a lot more maneuverability then, and was able to beat Dooku.

In ROTJ he's almost completely machine, thus having nearly no maneuverability whatsoever. My grandmother could've beaten him then. Dooku was an acknowledged master of Form II, which was designes specifically to fight lightsaber wielding opponents. Luke was an acknowledged user of Form V, but he had hardly mastered anything about lightsaber combat.

Have you ever read the comics? Vader is damn fast and manueverable. Oh, and by the way...I doubt your granny's as tough as the Dark Woman, who Vader, y'know, KILLED. And the ROTJ novel makes it clear: luke won that fight

And Yeah, Luke was stated to have become a saber master by then.

I don't care who you are, you don't become a saber master after four years of training. Luke had damn near no training whatsoever other than the little he got from Ben on the Falcon and with Yoda. He maybe had time to get a handle on Forms I and V, but certainly not master either of them. Not to mention it doesn't even have to be a saber battle, as Dooku could just electrocute Luke to death easy.

He had more time than Exar Kun with more of a natural affinity in the arts he we was training in.

And Luke was able to resist Palpatine's lightning for a moment. He'd be able to match Dooku with Sabers at least. Several years is ample time to master saber combat, especially when you have the best to work with and a near instinctive control over the saber

Hmm, lets see...
Luke:
- Beat Jabba's guards almost single handedly
- Beat a Rancor unarmed
- Destroyed a Scout Trooper on a Speeder Bike
- Lifted 3PO into the air with the Force
- Defeated Darth Vader but only because Vader was conflicted and did not want to hurt his own son

Dooku:
- Tooled AOTC Anakin and Obi-Wan
- Put up a good fight against Yoda
- Tooled Asajj Ventress
- Dueled Mace and it was close
- Tooled ROTS Obi-Wan, who's alot stronger than ROTJ Luke, while fending off Anakin

Could ROTJ Luke tool AOTC Anakin and Obi-Wan, put up a good fight against Yoda and toll Asajj Ventress? Hell no, Dooku pwns Luke.

Oh, right, never mind Luke mastering a saber within the span of a couple years

You're not listening, to these people are you.
Luke did not master a lightsaber. He learned the basics. That does not make him a Master.
For what seems like the zillionth time, Anakin did not out-duel Dooku. He overpowered him, but he did not out-duel him. Dooku has almost 70 years more experience with a lightsaber than Luke. He mastered Makashi to it's highest degree.

Would you say that RotJ Luke was as good with a lightsaber as AotC Anakin?

Dooku cut Anakin's arm off with little trouble.
Coming down to Force abililities, RotJ was defenceless against Palpatine's Force lightning. If he'd been properly trained, he'd've known he could've grounded it on his lightsaber, but noo, he threw it asside to try and make a point. The only point he made was how little he understood about the Force or what Palpatine was capable of.

Dooku could use Force lightning to put Luke down before they even crossed blades, and if was a matter of a duel, he would disarm Luke (and I do mean that literally) within seconds.

Except it's said in a short time he was able to master the saber.
And nope, Dooku was outdueled, his defenses were gone

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Except it's said in a short time he was able to master the saber.
And nope, Dooku was outdueled, his defenses were gone

Originally posted by Darth Vious
You're not listening, to these people are you.
Luke did not master a lightsaber. He learned the basics. That does not make him a Master.
For what seems like the zillionth time, Anakin did not out-duel Dooku. He overpowered him, but he did not out-duel him. Dooku has almost 70 years more experience with a lightsaber than Luke. He mastered Makashi to it's highest degree.

Would you say that RotJ Luke was as good with a lightsaber as AotC Anakin?

Dooku cut Anakin's arm off with little trouble.
Coming down to Force abililities, RotJ was defenceless against Palpatine's Force lightning. If he'd been properly trained, he'd've known he could've grounded it on his lightsaber, but noo, he threw it asside to try and make a point. The only point he made was how little he understood about the Force or what Palpatine was capable of.

Dooku could use Force lightning to put Luke down before they even crossed blades, and if was a matter of a duel, he would disarm Luke (and I do mean that literally) within seconds.