Phoenix Force vs a Multiversal Power......Phoenix get's Crushed!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Remember the Doctor Doom that was in Secret Wars the first series,

that wasn't really Doom,(well technically it was but read)that was a Future self of Doom plucked from the timestream courtesy of the Beyonder,

This is incredible,
Not only does Beyonder use a Doom from the future to fight in the Secret Wars saga, which now explains how DOOM was able to manipulate Galactus's vast technology, but the funny thing is Doom was already dead, he had been dead since FF #260, when the FF, Doom and Silver Surfer took on Terrax.

The insane part is,
He plucked him from a future that he himself was going to create for Doom way after the Secret Wars series, simply amazing.

This is well into the Secret Wars II series,

Now Beyonder sends Doom back in time to the Secret Wars drama that was already played out, just to re-install Doom's mind/spirit with his original body,
he speeds up that seperate event in time(Secret Wars I)and ends up in the now, with a fully revived and renewd DOOM.
Unbelievable.

Nice feat, and yet regardless of the convoluted description still not as impressive as Phoenix casually amputating 616's entire future timeline out of dissatisfaction.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Multi-versal power my foot.
You keep throwing that word around...but all we get from your scans is a Universal threat...no more. Again the highlight from your own scan:

Sorry dude...NO Multi-verse here neither..again a Universal feat.

If only you'd read up on the subject matter, then you could saved yourself a lot of bother. As it is this is all poorly informed waffle. Spam 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
By the time you reach this I've spread my knowledge across the kmc world.
I bet you thought you was the man when you wrote that.

I can see how things have to be beyond obvious for your eyes gs, you respond with your sarcasm and snyde stupidity thinking you hot kaka..but I always get the last laugh.

😂 Laughable.

Originally posted by Mr Master
There was a page I didn't include because it was obvious to me, and after I posted it it was obvious to everyone else...that in fact LT made the Silver Surfer into a Universe. "Godhood"...Which I proved way in the beginning, is a title given to Thanos with IG, who essentialy became the Universe in Infinity Gauntlet #5.
Here's the LT transforming the Silver Surfer into a Universe(with the extra page)SS#31 v3.





SEE...Silver Surfer EXPANDING into a Universe, you phony.

He turned Silver Surfer into a universe did he? He created a new reality on a whim did he? Read the third paragraph down:

You read it? SHHHHH! 😱

Originally posted by Mr Master
You thought you were the man again..

Pride cometh before destruction.

It was a good attempt, really it was. But in the end youre all hype and no substance. ✅

You had a good run in my absence but as of now GS is back to set things right.

Thats all 😱

GS signing out 😎

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nice feat, and yet regardless of the convoluted description still not as impressive as Phoenix casually amputating 616's entire future timeline out of dissatisfaction.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He turned Silver Surfer into a universe did he? He created a new reality on a whim did he? Read the third paragraph down:

You read it? SHHHHH! 😱

This is still not enough to show that Phoneix is second to God. SSSHHHH!!

in the offical whatever its called it says he made SS one with the universe, is that the same as making him a universe or is that nothing more then cosmic awerness im asking. hay takion when can i have the info on overkill and cygor or at least cygor

Originally posted by leonidas
either way, the pf is still clearly implicated in g's birth and existence. it was then 're-born' as in, the same force was born again. doens't that also make the force multiversal?

Every scan that gs threw up of Phoenix's greatest feats was proven not to be Multiversal...you say you saw them...so how can you not know this?

And as for the PF being monkey wrenched into Galactus's origin is invalid imo...
That has never happened on panel..I read all those bio's...You can disregard the one I used of LT's to accompany the rest of my on panel proof...they mix events that took place in comics...with a made up story in their "handbooks"..

Originally posted by leonidas
and then the tower. as described in the bio, it too seemed to indicate the force had power to affect the multiverse as a whole.

Those handbooks suck dude...
The story they wrote in there is not even complete or accurate...lol

This the TRUE story of the Excalibur Lighthouse(Tower)
from on panel scans.

Necrom, and his two pupils Feron and Merlyn, discovered energy fields. They realized that these energy fields were doorways between worlds -- all worlds existed as reflections of each other in the Multiverse.

Everytime the parallel worlds were aligned they created an extremely powerful energy matrix. Necrom wanted the power of this energy matrix for himself...

It was not Phoenix that created that energy matrix yet that bio leads you to believe otherwise.
Are they even researching their stories before they include them in these handbooks?

Necrom, Feron, and Merlyn traveled to the prime world of all these parallel worlds -- that was of course "our" world, also known as 616...

On our earth they discovered a tower that functioned as a doorway to the other worlds... Necrom & Co. wanted to have this tower (this doorway) at all earths in all parallel realities, via the Energy Matrix...

but to do this they needed something stronger than themselves...to project the Tower on every earth quick enough, before the Energy Matrix misaligned..

At a moment when all the parallel worlds were aligned, Feron made the Phoenix force project the tower throughout the Multiverse, and now each world had a doorway to the other parallel worlds.

By the way...only the Mulitversal Energy Matrix that was already there to begin with, could have collapse the Multiverse..not Phoenix's power.

Originally posted by leonidas
but it does seem to be able to exert power over the multiverse and exist in other universes. what else is multiversal to mean?

I just showed you how the Phoenix Force can NOT exert power over the Multiverse on her own.
It was easy for Phoenix to project the tower across the Multiverse once the Energy Matrix was formed, because it gave her access to every Earth simultaneously even if it was but an instant.

Multiversal is Abraxas killing every Galactus in every Universe.
Abraxas killing nearly every Reed Richards in every Universe simultaneously.
UN remaking the Multiverse.
IG remaking one Universe while controlling another Universe...again it was an Incomplete IG.

Originally posted by Takion
Wait, Why didn't Eternity say that Phoneix is second to God? Eternity said LT was second to god, and HOTU made Thanos supreme being.

And yet LT depicts the Phoenix power as being able to humble LT therefore thats a bit of a moot point sonny 😄

I've been waiting for this GS it took you longer to respind then I thought though.

Originally posted by Takion
Again I ask, show me a scan where Phoneix has been told to be second to god, and has created a universe.

If you insist:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7509200254.jpg&s=x11

😉

LT was around at the time 🙂

Originally posted by newjak86
I've been waiting for this GS it took you longer to respind then I thought though.

I work these days so from now on i cant be on the forum as much as i used to. 🙁

Originally posted by Takion
HE TURNED SURFER INTO A UNIVERSE!!!! Did he ever create one?

Read it properly. 🙂

Please. Me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else including the Phoenix and TOAA. 😎

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In some cases godhood has meant those things. In some it hasnt. To try and claim it means the same thing across the board is somewhat naive. Regardless if you were to have a lil look at the new LT bio youre getting so worked up over you would see that as per my interpretation it states that LT made SS one with the universe. He did not as per your ridiculous claims

Whatever, you thought "Godhood" strickly meant, omniscience.
I proved you wrong..case closed.

You can post your little laughing smilies all you want. I already disregarded my ONE and only intruduction of a bio into a debate. So bump that.

LT Turned Silver Surfer into a UNIVERSE!

You want to dispute that fine...everyone knows the facts with ON Panel proof.

Originally posted by Takion
Show me a scan where Phoneix created a universe rather than EDITING it. 😐

Its stated multiple times on panel that the Phoenix is the Big Bang that spawns reality. Theres even a scan of Phoenix being reborn into creation as the Big Bang in Excalibur #52. You obviously havent been reading the thread properly and despite that are continuing to make queries which consequently have been dealt with. With that in mind i really dont feel obligated to post it again. 🙁

Happy reading!!! 😄

Originally posted by batdude123
Please. Me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else including the Phoenix and TOAA. 😎

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever, you thought "Godhood" strickly meant, omniscience.
I proved you wrong..case closed.

You can post your little laughing smilies all you want. I already disregarded my ONE and only intruduction of a bio into a debate. So bump that.

LT Turned Silver Surfer into a UNIVERSE!

You want to dispute that fine...everyone knows the facts with ON Panel proof.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever, you thought "Godhood" strickly meant, omniscience.
I proved you wrong..case closed.

You can post your little laughing smilies all you want. I already disregarded my ONE and only intruduction of a bio into a debate. So bump that.

LT Turned Silver Surfer into a UNIVERSE!

You want to dispute that fine...everyone knows the facts with ON Panel proof.

Nope. LT offered to give Surfer a connection to the infinite as stated on panel. You have got caught up on the artwork and went on to make the ridiculous claim that he turned SS into a universe when in fact he made him one with the universe.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17809374979.jpg&s=f5

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17809385351.jpg&s=f5

I guess Phoenix turned Mastermind into a universe as well? 🙄 😂

Hmm... Is Phoenix, LT, or anyone a megaversal entity?