Phoenix Force vs a Multiversal Power......Phoenix get's Crushed!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. LT offered to give Surfer a connection to the infinite as stated on panel. You have got caught up on the artwork and went on to make the ridiculous claim that he turned SS into a universe when in fact he made him one with the universe.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17809374979.jpg&s=f5

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17809385351.jpg&s=f5

I guess Phoenix turned Mastermind into a universe as well? 🙄 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And your point is? LTs master is allegedly a power greater than the IGs. Whether thats true or not nothing was stated or depicted regarding LTs superiority to the gems

Gibberish...

Everyone knows LT is above said Gauntlet..I'm not goint to go in circles.
regardless of that stupid bio.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Please read the above scan with care. Does it say that Wanda generated and maintained the chaos wave? Does it not state that a global alteration has breached the walls of causality? Does Roma not state that sealing the breach would put an end to the problem? Does that not suggest therefore that the breach itself is the cause for the trans temporal tsunami?

No.

It tells me Clearly that if it had not been for Wanda...the Multiverse would not have nearly been wiped out...case closed.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wandas warping of Earth 616, unwittingly to her resulted in a tear in one of the walls separating realities. The chaos wave therefore is either a spillover of Wandas reality warp into other dimensions or it is a violent reaction to the tear itself. Legions manipulations of time/space in Legion Quest similarly resulted in a tear in the dimensional walls which also sparked off a wave which threatened to collapse the multiverse if left unchecked:

Alot of explaining..

Ol' GS is back for sure..

Explain, explain your way away...away from the fact..

that Wanda was responsible for the Chaos Wave...case closed.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenixforce28cr.jpg

I guess then we can bring this up:
- The Phoenix Force was wounded by two sentient ships from the Ultraverse
- Xorn kills Jean and shatters the Force into billions of pieces
- PF was forced back to reality by a Shi'Ar device

This is the multiversal creator of the Marvel Universe? Greater than Eternity, the Infinity Gauntlet, and the Living Tribunal?

This board is riddled with misinformation. Thanks to this G.S.

Eternity has been captured and imprisoned by Nightmare and defeated and had his power stolen by Dormammu.

LT has needed aid from Dr Strange to defeat Nebulous, recently he needed help from the other cosmics to try and kill Galactus and went on to get punked by a weapon of Reed Richards. LT has also has his judgements brushed off by Korvac and as Leonidas pointed out his judgements dont appear to be infallible.

Eternity created Galactus.

http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternity18pq.jpg

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
His power wasnt being directly applied to Death she just protected herself and the others from the feedoff coming from said battle

This true..I already was made aware of this mistake..Death had nothing to do with this anyway..

Still doesn't take away from the fact that Phoenix is Universal at best.

And even after Phoenix is dead and gone..Death will still be there.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gibberish...

Everyone knows LT is above said Gauntlet..I'm not goint to go in circles.
regardless of that stupid bio.

No.

It tells me Clearly that if it had not been for Wanda...the Multiverse would not have nearly been wiped out...case closed.

Alot of explaining..

Ol' GS is back for sure..

Explain, explain your way away...away from the fact..

that Wanda was responsible for the Chaos Wave...case closed.

Nope. Everyone does not KNOW that about LT. People assume that is the case because of forum talk, but anyone who actually reads the confrontation can see for themselves that even LT was unsure of how his power would fare against the IGs and so to prevent the destruction of the reality he is pledged to protect he talked Adam into submitting. His ruling about the gems took place after Adam submitted. Interferring with the inner workings of an inanimate object is not impressive.

Nope. It shows that a global alteration is the cause for the chaos wave. Wandas actions were the catalyst for it. Theres nothing to suggest it was a direct manifestation of her power. No supposition, please. Lets stick to the facts. 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet according to the Handbook the Infinity Gauntlet derives its power from the Big Bangwhich we all know is a manifestation of:

AHAHAAHA!!

Reaching for handbooks for proof is not going to cut it...

Phoenix can alter ONE Universe..that's as far as her power goes..

You wish Phoenix's power was even remotely close to IG...LOL.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Eternity has been captured and imprisoned by Nightmare and defeated and had his power stolen by Dormammu.

LT has needed aid from Dr Strange to defeat Nebulous, recently he needed help from the other cosmics to try and kill Galactus and went on to get punked by a weapon of Reed Richards. LT has also has his judgements brushed off by Korvac and as Leonidas pointed out his judgements dont appear to be infallible.

Eternity substequently became the prisoner of the demon nightmare, who sought to control all of reality through eternitys powers; but Eternity only let him think that, and ultimately banished Nightmare into oblivion.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This true..I already was made aware of this mistake..Death had nothing to do with this anyway..

Still doesn't take away from the fact that Phoenix is Universal at best.

And even after Phoenix is dead and gone..Death will still be there.

Nope. There is one Phoenix Consciousness in the White Hot Room and there are Phoenix manifestations at the universal level. However as stated on panel these manifestations stem from the the white Hot Room. As shown in multiple realities these Phoenix manifestations are responsible for the creation of them.

Phoenix cannot die. Death however can be rendered non existent. Death is just a facet of reality. Phoenix sparks off creation.

Thats all. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
AHAHAAHA!!

Reaching for handbooks for proof is not going to cut it...

Phoenix can alter ONE Universe..that's as far as her power goes..

You wish Phoenix's power was even remotely close to IG...LOL.

The I G as stated on panel is a conduit for the universal forces of reality. It taps into 616s power. As stated by LT and Galactus, the realities of the marvel multiverse are closed systems. Phoenix is the Big Bang from which all energy in 616 stems from.

Thats all

-GS 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. There is one Phoenix Consciousness in the White Hot Room and there are Phoenix manifestations at the universal level. However as stated on panel these manifestations stem from the the white Hot Room. As shown in multiple realities these Phoenix manifestations are responsible for the creation of them.

Phoenix cannot die. Death however can be rendered non existent. Death is just a facet of reality. Phoenix sparks off creation.

Thats all. 🙂

I think you need to read this.

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death23mx.jpg

Originally posted by Takion
No.

Eternity substequently became the prisoner of the demon nightmare, who sought to control all of reality through eternitys powers; but Eternity only let him think that, and ultimately banished Nightmare into oblivion.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17712590170.jpg&s=f5

You see that little glowing thing in Jeans hand? Thats Eternity. Thats also what the IG gives you mastery of. 😂

Phoneix is the unwitting servant of Death.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[QUOTE=6808102]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B] So many Big Bangs!
Do you mean this one?
Infinity Being created Mephisto and Every demon

Infinity being was the big bang of creation

Yes, Infinity being was the big bang of the universe

And Mephisto seems to agree

That hasnt been the case for many years. Since then as i have shown many times on this board in various scans Phoenix is stated to be the energies of creation, it is said to manifest as the Big Bang, so unlucky mate. Have you not heard of a retcon? You must of MM, its the thing which ensured your beloved Beyonder got his transgender ass messed up this month:

Dude when you have nothing to say..you result to absolute

Gibberish.

This scan and your blabbing has nothing to do with Phoenix spawing creation..AHAHAHA!

My scans on the other hand..proved clearly the facts.

And if you are going by Handbooks, Then the only one superior to LT is TOAA.

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=livingtribunal14jr.jpg

Originally posted by Takion
I think you need to read this.

http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=death23mx.jpg

The handbooks are a guide to continuity. They do not equate to continuity. I mentioned that entry to the handbook writers and thats what they said. 🙂

I can post the scene between Death and Phoenix if you'd like and you tell me if that correlates with what was written. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT ~ recently he needed help from the other cosmics to try and kill Galactus and went on to get punked by a weapon of Reed Richards.

I actually have to disagree with you on this point. The writer of "Last Planet Standing" said that wasn't the case. That the LT didn't need help from any of them, they brought the situation to him and then they decided to aid in his attack. The writer also went on to state that all Reed Richards did was "sucker punch" the cosmics and hit them when they weren't expecting it. He stated that the M-Body that was shattered contained only a fraction of the LT's power, as he's overseaing the entire multiverse, he only allocated the power he deemed necessary. He stated that the LT could have easily destroyed Galactus (and the entire MW Galaxy) on his own, and that he can easily reform the M-body that was destroyed, but by the time he gets around to doing it the Last Planet Standing event will be over.

Don't argue with me about it. Take it up with the writer.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The handbooks are a guide to continuity. They do not equate to continuity. I mentioned that entry to the handbook writers and thats what they said. 🙂

I can post the scene between Death and Phoenix if you'd like and you tell me if that correlates with what was written. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dude when you have nothing to say..you result to absolute

Gibberish.

This scan and your blabbing has nothing to do with Phoenix spawing creation..AHAHAHA!

My scans on the other hand..proved clearly the facts.

As highlighted by Leonidas in this very same thread, the Infinity Being has been retconned for a very long time now. The Phoenix Force manifests as the Big Bang, the Phoenix is the life force of creation as i have shown in multiple scans.

That'll do.

😄

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
I actually have to disagree with you on this point. The writer of "Last Planet Standing" said that wasn't the case. That the LT didn't need help from any of them, they brought the situation to him and then they decided to aid in his attack. The writer also went on to state that all Reed Richards did was "sucker punch" the cosmics and hit them when they weren't expecting it. He stated that the M-Body that was shattered contained only a fraction of the LT's power, as he's overseaing the entire multiverse, he only allocated the power he deemed necessary. He stated that the LT could have easily destroyed Galactus (and the entire MW Galaxy) on his own, and that he can easily reform the M-body that was destroyed, but by the time he gets around to doing it the Last Planet Standing event will be over.

Don't argue with me about it. Take it up with the writer.

Which is precisely my point. Theres always an explanation behind low showings by beings of such high power levels. People just need to take them into consideration and have a lil objectivity when weighing up the situation.