Phoenix Force vs a Multiversal Power......Phoenix get's Crushed!

Originally posted by Maestro
Im not sure on this, but wouldn't it be compulsary to destroy and recreate the multiverse, illustrated by the amount of damage abraxas done across all the universes i.e kill every galactus & reed richards. If every galactus wasn't revived then abraxas would still be present therefore resulting in the multiverse being recreated.

P.S Finally someone debunks Galactic, me & Whirly had the carry the flag before, and "The Master" your name is truly justified 😄

And GS 😂

it's an interesting question. i was wondering about the damage done to the others as well. perhaps the reset retroactively repaired whatever damage was done, since 616 was where the damage orginated from? just a theory, but i find it very difficult to believe the un rebooted the entire multiverse when it has never shown to have anywhere near that power.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's an interesting question. i was wondering about the damage done to the others as well. perhaps the reset retroactively repaired whatever damage was done, since 616 was where the damage orginated from? just a theory, but i find it very difficult to believe the un rebooted the entire multiverse when it has never shown to have anywhere near that power.

Exactly what i said to Mr M when he first threw this multiversal idea around. By returning 616 to its previous state of normality as the Handbook stated what if that resulted in the fixing of the damage done in alternate realities.

Either way the UN has only ever displayed power on a universal scale and there was no depiction of it performing it on a multiversal one in that issue.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Exactly what i said to Mr M when he first threw this multiversal idea around. By returning 616 to its previous state of normality as the Handbook stated what if that resulted in the fixing of the damage done in alternate realities.

Either way the UN has only ever displayed power on a universal scale and there was no depiction of it performing it on a multiversal one in that issue.

cheers

Originally posted by leonidas
cheers

😄 😎

I cant believe the amount of people who came out of the woodwork and jumped on the bandwagon at the first sign of my downfall. Well sorry guys but its just not gonna happen! You stand revealed and this means war!!! 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet LT depicts the Phoenix power as being able to humble LT therefore thats a bit of a moot point sonny 😄

Originally posted by kgkg
actually few months after the same comic ( yr 2003) HOTU(Thanos) said LT is second to God.
............... 😄

Nope. Theres an assembled army of cosmics and he calls LT the top of the food chain. Open to interpretation. 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix can and has made universes as it manifests as the Big Bang

Your Lying again...Show us GS.. SHOW US ALL..

Where Phoenix created a Universe?

A Big Bang is an explosion that disperses the stuff that becomes a Universe..it doesn't actually Create the Universe itself...AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You'l do anything to raise that Phoenix won't you. LOL

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and as for the multiversal bit the containing of a multiversal power, the multiversal energy matrix feat

Sorry potna..

I disproved this a few posts ago but here it is again:

This the TRUE story of the Excalibur Lighthouse(Tower)
from on panel scans.

Necrom, and his two pupils Feron and Merlyn, discovered energy fields. They realized that these energy fields were doorways between worlds -- all worlds existed as reflections of each other in the Multiverse.

Everytime the parallel worlds were aligned they created an extremely powerful energy matrix. Necrom wanted the power of this energy matrix for himself...

Necrom, Feron, and Merlyn traveled to the prime world of all these parallel worlds -- that was of course "our" world, also known as 616...

On our earth they discovered a tower that functioned as a doorway to the other worlds... Necrom & Co. wanted to have this tower (this doorway) at all earths in all parallel realities, via the Energy Matrix...

but to do this they needed something stronger than themselves...to project the Tower on every earth quick enough, before the Energy Matrix misaligned..

At a moment when all the parallel worlds were aligned, Feron made the Phoenix force project the tower throughout the Multiverse, and now each world had a doorway to the other parallel worlds.

By the way...only the Mulitversal Energy Matrix that was already there to begin with, could have collapse the Multiverse..not Phoenix's power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
i'll just keep quiet for now as all your delusions regarding both Wanda and the Ultimate Nullifier have been laid to rest.

Unfortunately for you..it was on panel proof that I presented with the Ultimate Nullifier feat..

ONLY YOU see that as anything else.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Lying? Not my style.

Death visualizes various cosmic threats including the IG and talks down there threat level only to proclaim Phoenix as the one they most feared and an actual legitimate threat to reality 😉

Lying? Definitely your style..
Everyone here knows.

Still with this blabbing by Death the Universes ultimate skeemer.
SHow us just ONE FEAT..wher Phoenix trumps IG..UN...or anything of this caliber.

SHOW US WHEN and WHERE did Phoenix ever either Created a Universe..like Living Tribunal did with Silver Surfer, you can the Silver Surfer transforming...expanding..becoming a Universe.

Also show me where specifically in these scans you present..does it name IG..UN..or anything else?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. Theres an assembled army of cosmics and he calls LT the top of the food chain. Open to interpretation. 😂

To be honest i dont really care about that point. If a comic came out tomorrow which actually weighed up Phoenix against LT and he came out on top then id be relieved more than anything. It would finally be over and id have a lot less essays to write. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your Lying again...Show us GS.. SHOW US ALL..

Where Phoenix created a Universe?

A Big Bang is an explosion that disperses the stuff that becomes a Universe..it doesn't actually Create the Universe itself...AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You'l do anything to raise that Phoenix won't you. LOL

Sorry potna..

I disproved this a few posts ago but here it is again:

This the TRUE story of the Excalibur Lighthouse(Tower)
from on panel scans.

Necrom, and his two pupils Feron and Merlyn, discovered energy fields. They realized that these energy fields were doorways between worlds -- all worlds existed as reflections of each other in the Multiverse.

Everytime the parallel worlds were aligned they created an extremely powerful energy matrix. Necrom wanted the power of this energy matrix for himself...

Necrom, Feron, and Merlyn traveled to the prime world of all these parallel worlds -- that was of course "our" world, also known as 616...

On our earth they discovered a tower that functioned as a doorway to the other worlds... Necrom & Co. wanted to have this tower (this doorway) at all earths in all parallel realities, via the Energy Matrix...

but to do this they needed something stronger than themselves...to project the Tower on every earth quick enough, before the Energy Matrix misaligned..

At a moment when all the parallel worlds were aligned, Feron made the Phoenix force project the tower throughout the Multiverse, and now each world had a doorway to the other parallel worlds.

By the way...only the Mulitversal Energy Matrix that was already there to begin with, could have collapse the Multiverse..not Phoenix's power.

Unfortunately for you..it was on panel proof that I presented with the Ultimate Nullifier feat..

ONLY YOU see that as anything else.

Lying? Definitely your style..
Everyone here knows.

Still with this blabbing by Death the Universes ultimate skeemer.
SHow us just ONE FEAT..wher Phoenix trumps IG..UN...or anything of this caliber.

SHOW US WHEN and WHERE did Phoenix ever either Created a Universe..like Living Tribunal did with Silver Surfer, you can the Silver Surfer transforming...expanding..becoming a Universe.

Also show me where specifically in these scans you present..does it name IG..UN..or anything else?

what are you trying to prove again?

Originally posted by kgkg
what are you trying to prove again?

😂

Here we go again. 🙄

They never learn. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your Lying again...Show us GS.. SHOW US ALL..

Where Phoenix created a Universe?

A Big Bang is an explosion that disperses the stuff that becomes a Universe..it doesn't actually Create the Universe itself...AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You'l do anything to raise that Phoenix won't you. LOL

Phoenix manifests as the Big Bang. Therefore it is responsible for spawning a universe. Theres just no getting around it my friend. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sorry potna..

I disproved this a few posts ago but here it is again:

This the TRUE story of the Excalibur Lighthouse(Tower)
from on panel scans.

Necrom, and his two pupils Feron and Merlyn, discovered energy fields. They realized that these energy fields were doorways between worlds -- all worlds existed as reflections of each other in the Multiverse.

Everytime the parallel worlds were aligned they created an extremely powerful energy matrix. Necrom wanted the power of this energy matrix for himself...

Necrom, Feron, and Merlyn traveled to the prime world of all these parallel worlds -- that was of course "our" world, also known as 616...

On our earth they discovered a tower that functioned as a doorway to the other worlds... Necrom & Co. wanted to have this tower (this doorway) at all earths in all parallel realities, via the Energy Matrix...

but to do this they needed something stronger than themselves...to project the Tower on every earth quick enough, before the Energy Matrix misaligned..

At a moment when all the parallel worlds were aligned, Feron made the Phoenix force project the tower throughout the Multiverse, and now each world had a doorway to the other parallel worlds.

By the way...only the Mulitversal Energy Matrix that was already there to begin with, could have collapse the Multiverse..not Phoenix's power.

The energy was already there but Phoenix linked it together and formed a constant stable flow of it throughout the multiverse. Hence my statement that Phoenix created an energy matrix that flows around the multiverse. You've changed nothing. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
Unfortunately for you..it was on panel proof that I presented with the Ultimate Nullifier feat..

ONLY YOU see that as anything else.

Nope. You presented an on panel scan. On panel proof? ❌

For it to be on panel proof it would have to conclusively prove the point youre trying to make through an unbiased statement and a depiction not open to interpretation.

You showed a scan of the UN recreating Eternity. You proved nothing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Lying? Definitely your style..
Everyone here knows.

Still with this blabbing by Death the Universes ultimate skeemer.
SHow us just ONE FEAT..wher Phoenix trumps IG..UN...or anything of this caliber.

SHOW US WHEN and WHERE did Phoenix ever either Created a Universe..like Living Tribunal did with Silver Surfer, you can the Silver Surfer transforming...expanding..becoming a Universe.

Also show me where specifically in these scans you present..does it name IG..UN..or anything else?

The IG gives control of the energy within a reality. Not only does the power within a reality stem from Phoenix as she is the Big Bang but the fact that she held 616 in the palm of her hand should tell you straight away shes beyond the IG. The IG gives you mastery over something she can hold like a tennis ball.

LT offered Surfer a connection to the Infinite. He was therefore going to hook him up to something. That is the only description pertaining to what he was going to do so thats all we have to go by. No assumption or supposition required or welcome. 😄

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He made Surfer one with the universe, as Phoenix did to Jason Wyngarde. But by your logic and observational skills im guessing she you'd say she turned him into one 😂

I told you this was far from over Mr. Master.

😄

This is what this argument basically comes down to, interprations, there's always going to be a balance for both sides due to the differing opinions on subjects. Although I think this argument is clearly lopsided in Mr masters favour due to the credible "on-panel" evidence he has supplied.

A war has started lol

Originally posted by Maestro
This is what this argument basically comes down to, interprations, there's always going to be a balance for both sides due to the differing opinions on subjects. Although I think this argument is clearly lopsided in Mr masters favour due to the credible "on-panel" evidence he has supplied.

What credible evidence?

The LT turning SS into a universe was garbage.

The UN recreating the multiverse not only has no precedence but also isnt supported on panel through statement or artistic depiction.

The M'kraan crystal got retconned into a multiversal nexus of realities over a decade ago.

With those things in mind his argument is in tatters. 🙂

Originally posted by kgkg
what are you trying to prove again?

That the Phoenix Force did NOT create the Energy Matrix that ALLOWED her to project the Tower across the Multiverse.

And it was proven.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That the Phoenix Force did NOT create the Energy Matrix that ALLOWED her to project the Tower across the Multiverse.

And it was proven.

But she did craete the energy matrix. Before it was just ambient energy which aligned periodically. She projected the tower into every reality of the multiverse thereby aligning it permanently hence the statement she created an energy matrix that flows throughout the multiverse. 😱