Originally posted by Mr Master
Well I'm a straight shooter, and this isn't a hate the Phoenix thread, so we should speak fairly.Phoenix can re-create a Universe, she did warp 616.
Phoenix can NOT create a Universe, which is to make a Universe from nothing.
On panel proof tells us she can atleast destroy a Universe...an Eternity(single Universe)
I know all that except here destroying a universe. When was that?
Phoenix repaired the Mkraan Crystal...which had the power to destroy A Universe
The same Crystal she guards? I don't know whether to say that it's a big feat or that it was in her to be fix what she guards.
That's what I'm saying though...Phoenix does not even spark that process up, not across the Multiverse, in A Single Universe she's the spark. It may be the X-universe.
Nope. I just see the Phoenix Force as having counter parts similar to Galactus having counter parts in other realities. It's just that the Phoenix Force of 616 is more powerful than other PF from alternate realities.
I feel about the same, but I put THOU above the Living Tribunal...and I put Multi-Death above THOU...then the TOAA. [/B]
😄 I agree (forgot about those). Except Multiverse Death is a bit uncertain. Thanos has done things without even knowing. I don't think MU Death is above the Living Tribunal who was absorbed by HOTU. Thanos has unconsciously allowed for his own defeat during the Infinity Gauntlet.
Originally posted by illadelph12
According to GS, Jean [b]IS the entire Phoenix Force.This is going to get ugly. [/B]
That's correct.
The thing is though, I still consider her very powerful...(come on remaking a universe in your hands)but we've been desensitized to the scopes of power in this day & age, the industry is supersaturated with characters that can do anything.
So obliterating a galaxies is a walk in the park now, when before superman in metropolis could hear a mosquito sneeze in central africa...and that was something to bend a knee at.
Things change...it's the way..I guess...
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I know all that except here destroying a universe. When was that?
On the first page it's pretty much evident that she can destroy atleast...A Universe...yep..I'll give her that.
She rearranged the 616 Universe atom by atom in her hands(very impressive feat)she had full control of that Universe...she can...destroy a Universe.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The same Crystal she guards? I don't know whether to say that it's a big feat or that it was in her to be fix what she guards.
You know it's funny you say that...I thought that once.
But it makes no difference...it still keeps he at a Universal level.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Nope. I just see the Phoenix Force as having counter parts similar to Galactus having counter parts in other realities. It's just that the Phoenix Force of 616 is more powerful than other PF from alternate realities.
That's an interesting theory...pardon me...am I right by saying theory?
I'm saying..you read this in what issues?
You have scans?
This is what I know about the Phoenix Force:
The Phoenix accidentally met Galactus and tried to stop him from consuming a planet's life energy, but the battle ended when Galactus told the Phoenix force what pain it caused the Universe... In its natural state the Phoenix force was sustained by the warmth of life's fiery cycle -- but when the Phoenix gained its own consciousness, and became aware of its own existence, it wanted to enter our plane of reality. To exist here it took power from life yet to be born, and had thus become a parasite on the Universe...
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I agree (forgot about those). Except Multiverse Death is a bit uncertain. Thanos has done things without even knowing. I don't think MU Death is above the Living Tribunal who was absorbed by HOTU. Thanos has unconsciously allowed for his own defeat during the Infinity Gauntlet.
I hear that but Death survived a direct assault by Thanos with the Full power of the IG. everyone was Thanos's puppet...Death survived and even escaped...besides that she obviously keeps on ticking while Living Tribunal is absorbed and gone along with the most powerful beings in the reality.
Death's domain truly spans ALL creation...every Universe that Marvel has created, Death is there and will be the last there...until there is no more life to consume...and then Death it's self...wiil become non-existent.
