Superman v.s Cable

Started by TheKahn11 pages
Originally posted by bigbran
it says right in the scan from cable. " didnt see this one cumming", so that kinda contradicts what your saying, and they also heard it, it says nowhere in that scan, that cable sensed ss was cumming.

Storm Shadow already responded to that misrepresentation. 😐

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Bah

I had to do this though batdude123😉 So assuming Cable can survive a strike this is within his powers🙂

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holy now hes immune to kryptonite, how many more powers do they need to give him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? im not trying to argue but thats just stupid, make the guy have his weakness that hes had since he was made.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Lightmaster flew at him at the speed of light okay...they do the math of how fast it would take for something to move at the speed of light to get to where they were from the sun.....LM got there faster.

Lightmaster was trying to speed blitz him at light speed.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye...

It has been shown many times that Flash is faster then this Superman and Flash doesn't...well he's not suppossed to move faster then light.

1. Lightmaster stopped moving and allowed Cable to attack and BFR him. When he was moving Cable could lay a hand on him. Simple as that.

2. First please provide a scan saying that Cable's eye allows him to track objects at light speed and please realize that it is Cable's human based physiology (particularly the method by which nerve impulse are transmitted to and processed by the brain) that prevents him from thinking at light speed.

3. The Flash isn't suppose to move faster than light 🤨 What part of you nether-region did you pull that from?

Originally posted by bigbran
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holy now hes immune to kryptonite, how many more powers do they need to give him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? im not trying to argue but thats just stupid, make the guy have his weakness that hes had since he was made.

That was a result of Superman using "Torquasm Vo" which is a kryptonian mental discipline which allows Superman to enter a "theta state" where he can seemingly manipulate an opponents thoughts, dreams, powers, and even reality itself. Avalonofthewind could give you more info on it. 🙂

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Lightmaster flew at him at the speed of light okay...they do the math of how fast it would take for something to move at the speed of light to get to where they were from the sun.....LM got there faster.

Lightmaster was trying to speed blitz him at light speed.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye...

It has been shown many times that Flash is faster then this Superman and Flash doesn't...well he's not suppossed to move faster then light.

You still haven't proved jack here. Superman moves WAY faster than the speed of light. You're bringing up a pretty much mute point here, however I'll bite. LM was not attacking him at the speed of light. Cable has the brain reactions of a normal human. Yes he has TP and TK, however the reactions are the same. If he WAS actually blitzing him at the speed of light (which he wasn't), then it's PIS. Plain and simple. There's actually no reason why Cable can perceive things going at the speed of light. Superman has also gone so fast before that he created a boom tube in the time dimension and he instantly time travelled. That's quite an impressive feat considering Superman isn't tied to the speed force whatsoever. To give you an idea of exactly how fast that is, Kyle Rayner went from one end of the universe to the other in under a day. Pretty fast, no??? However, when he did this he didn't create a boom tube in the time dimension. So, we can safely assume that Superman was going much faster. Cable doesn't have the reaction speeds, bottom line. Show me Cable reacting to something even CLOSE to that fast please.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
You do know why Flash didn't pass light speed don't you?

Flash wasn't moving at the speed of light and Superman couldn't catch him.

What does that tell you?

Don't say it was bad writing because Geoff Johns wrote it, and he's arguably one of if not thee best Flash writers of all time.

Really?? Well I'm inclined to disagree with you here. It goes against the majority of their showings. It doesn't really matter who exactly the writer is, it can still be PIS if it goes against the majority of the character's feats. 😉 You said yourself that the guy is an expert on Flash, that doesn't mean he knows a damn thing about Superman however. Also, Flash not moving past the speed of light is freakin rediculous. Seriously, he has been shown to move HUNDREDS of times the speed of light. You saying that Flash shouldn't be able to move passed light speed only shows your lack of knowledge. Btw, I like how you are leaving out a bunch of what I said to you when you rebuttal. 😆 Don't think I don't notice it. You are fighting a losing battle here junior. 😉 Supes for the win 10/10.

Originally posted by TheKahn
That was a result of Superman using "Torquasm Vo" which is a kryptonian mental discipline which allows Superman to enter a "theta state" where he can seemingly manipulate an opponents thoughts, dreams, powers, and even reality itself. Avalonofthewind could give you more info on it. 🙂
what he didnt have enough powers!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Originally posted by Soleran
I had to do this though batdude123😉 So assuming Cable can survive a strike this is within his powers🙂

Eh, two problems with that:

1. Superman's not going to be sitting there like a duck. He is going to be speedblitzing him. 😉

2. Who's to say that Superman wouldn't mind rape Cable before Cable even gets the chance? Superman's reaction speeds are much higher. 😗

Also, I don't want to call it PIS, however it is a pretty low showing from Superman. We are in fact using Superman to the best of his ability.

Originally posted by bigbran
what he didnt have enough powers!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Apparently Superman can never have enough powers. 🙂

Originally posted by TheKahn
Apparently Superman can never have enough powers. 🙂

Pretty much. ✅

Originally posted by batdude123
Pretty much. ✅
that sums up why i dont like him, ad his overated part.
but seriosly cable is a mutant, not even an omega at that! hes not winning.

Originally posted by bigbran
that sums up why i dont like him, ad his overated part.
but seriosly cable is a mutant, not even an omega at that! hes not winning.

Thank you. ✅

Originally posted by TheKahn
Superman has been shown to accelerate to light speed in fractions of a second (see the scan Batdude and I have posted). His acceleration is nearly as insane as his top speed. Keep in mind that the speed of light is 186,282.397 miles per second, so once Superman reaches less than 1% of that (which he can do very quickly) Cable will not be able to tell where Superman is much less actually attack him. There isn't anything stopping him from flying around the planet once or twice build up speed and then attacking Cable before Cable has become aware the fight has started.

Okay I just saw the scans and I'm not goingto even say what other posters have said to me about bringing up Jeph Loeb's Superman/Batman comic.

What I will say is, Superman has been shown more times then not to have to build up speed to reach that level.

I read Superman, Flash, Batman ect ect....this whats been shown.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Actually, whatever speed Lightmaster was using to own Cable, he had to slow down and talk to Cable before Cable could attack or BFR him. Had Cable been able to attack Lightmaster while Lightmaster was actually moving then this would be a different matter.

Lightmaster was trying to speed blitz Cable at light speed.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye..

Originally posted by TheKahn
You can't hit what you can't see.

But he can see things at light speed with his cyber eye.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Assuming you're right, how does that equal Cable being able to mentally manipulate Superman during the fight? It took Max Lord years to affect him mentally, so if Cable is more powerful then it might only take him one year or six months. The problem is that there is not way determine for sure if Cable could do what Max did in significantly less time.

X-Man was a Omega level mutant.

X-Man is also Cable just without the TO virus to weaken his powers.

Cable at that "god like" state wasn't held back by it anymore, which puts him at that omega level.

Mutants are given the status of omega level if they are pointed out to be one of they have a parent that was one.

Cable has Jeans powers.....

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, I'm the fanboy.

I know. 😊

Originally posted by bigbran
it says right in the scan from cable. " didnt see this one cumming"

He wasn't being literal Bunky.

Originally posted by bigbran
that sums up why i dont like him, ad his overated part.
but seriosly cable is a mutant, not even an omega at that! hes not winning.

Uh he's not an Omega, a sphincter says what?

Originally posted by TheKahn
That was a result of Superman using "Torquasm Vo" which is a kryptonian mental discipline which allows Superman to enter a "theta state" where he can seemingly manipulate an opponents thoughts, dreams, powers, and even reality itself. Avalonofthewind could give you more info on it. 🙂

kahn....why does it say Leo on your sig 😕

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Okay I just saw the scans and I'm not goingto even say what other posters have said to me about bringing up Jeph Loeb's Superman/Batman comic.

What I will say is, Superman has been shown more times then not to have to build up speed to reach that level.

I read Superman, Flash, Batman ect ect....this whats been shown.

Lightmaster was trying to speed blitz Cable at light speed.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye..

But he can see things at light speed with his cyber eye.

X-Man was a Omega level mutant.

X-Man is also Cable just without the TO virus to weaken his powers.

Cable at that "god like" state wasn't held back by it anymore, which puts him at that omega level.

Mutants are given the status of omega level if they are pointed out to be one of they have a parent that was one.

Cable has Jeans powers.....

I know. 😊

He wasn't being literal Bunky.

Btw, you are giving horrible rebuttals. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
Btw, you are giving horrible rebuttals. 😉

What did you want me to say to you're "and I'm the fanboy" and "yeah dude Superman 10/10", but atleast I don't just copy and past other peoples posts son.😂

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Okay I just saw the scans and I'm not goingto even say what other posters have said to me about bringing up Jeph Loeb's Superman/Batman comic.

What I will say is, Superman has been shown more times then not to have to build up speed to reach that level.

I read Superman, Flash, Batman ect ect....this whats been shown.

The point is that once Superman gets up to a very, very small percent of the speed of light Cable will not be able to follow much less actually attack him thanks to the the speed at which Cable's brain can process information.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

Lightmaster was trying to speed blitz Cable at light speed.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye..

No, Lightmaster was speedblitzing Cable and beating the ever loving crap out of him. But, of course, he then stops moving and allows Cable the opportunity to cover him with debris and BFR him.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

But he can see things at light speed with his cyber eye.

Then I'm sure you have a scan stating that explicitly proving this isn't just fanboy conjecture....

The only abilities I've ever heard of his cybernetic eye granting him is infrared and telescopic vision.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

X-Man was a Omega level mutant.

X-Man is also Cable just without the TO virus to weaken his powers.

Cable at that "god like" state wasn't held back by it anymore, which puts him at that omega level.

Mutants are given the status of omega level if they are pointed out to be one of they have a parent that was one.

Cable has Jeans powers.....

Jean is an Omega-level mutant. Cable is not.

Elixir (New Mutants vol. 2 # 12 by Beast)
Jean Grey (X-Men: Forever by Professor X, also known as the White Phoenix of the Crown.)
Iceman (X-Men: Forever)
Mister M (The 198 Files)
Franklin Richards (The 198 Files)
Quentin Quire (Phoenix Endsong #2 by various sources)
Rachel Summers (Uncanny X-Men #208 by Nimrod. Once also held the Phoenix Force.)
Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis by Professor X)

So where exactly is it stated that Cable is an Omega? 😕

Originally posted by Blair Wind
kahn....why does it say Leo on your sig 😕

Look at the top left corner. 😉

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh and for all you 'Cable Fans' who think deadpools healing Factor means anything . It doesn't. Heat cauterises a wound. I can think of nothing hotter then Supes heat vision (Sans a big-bang)

As you should know, a cauterized wound in Marvel doesn't necessarily prevent healing. Hulk was burned to a crisp wasn't he? And he regenerated from that.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Lightmaster flew at him at the speed of light okay...they do the math of how fast it would take for something to move at the speed of light to get to where they were from the sun.....LM got there faster.

It was from the moon to Earth and he was only 3/10ths of a second early. Sounds like Cable just overestimated how long it'd take him to get out of the sheathe. Or maybe he took a bit to think of something.

Cable reacted to it because he can stop things moving at light speed with his cybernetic eye...

Do you just make up things based on your own guessing? There's no evidence in those scans that his eye has anything to do with stooping, seeing, or making googly eyes at anything moving at high speeds. You could see the little telepathy bubbles. He was either sensing his mind or was just very aware of a huge area with his telepathy. Kind of like Daredevil and his radar vision.

It has been shown many times that Flash is faster then this Superman and Flash doesn't...well he's not suppossed to move faster then light.

Flash moves at whatever speed he wants. There's even the infamous time where he evacuates X million, I forgot how many, from that city as it's getting destroyed by a large bomb of some kind in nanoseconds.