Superman v.s Cable

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Originally posted by TheKahn
Look at the top left corner. 😉

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Superman takes this 10/10 easy. And even if cable could see something moving at light speed, he does not have the reaction to avoid something moving at light speed let alone multiple light speed. Im still not convince that he can see somebody moving at light speed and ive checked the respect tread.

Originally posted by bigbran
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holy now hes immune to kryptonite, how many more powers do they need to give him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? im not trying to argue but thats just stupid, make the guy have his weakness that hes had since he was made.

I don't hear you making comments when clinging to Thanos. In your mind, it's ok for Thanos to be invincible, yet it's wrong for Supes?

Originally posted by Soleran
I had to do this though batdude123😉 So assuming Cable can survive a strike this is within his powers🙂

Heat vision alone wins. Blackrock was being powered by millions of sources simultaneously and STILL couldn't stand up to Supes. On top of that, it's a magic stone of incredible power, and it was afraid of him bloodlusted.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The point is that once Superman gets up to a very, very small percent of the speed of light Cable will not be able to follow much less actually attack him thanks to the the speed at which Cable's brain can process information.

Cable's eye can spot things tha move at the speed of light, which makes him able react to thhings at the speed of light, which I've shown he can do with the Lightmaster fight.

Originally posted by TheKahn
No, Lightmaster was speedblitzing Cable and beating the ever loving crap out of him. But, of course, he then [b]stops moving and allows Cable the opportunity to cover him with debris and BFR him.[/B]

This is a fight that both parties are awear of the fight about to take place which Cable was When lightmaster tried to speed blitz him.

Before the fight took place Cable couldn't fight LM good because his thoughts move at the speed of light so he couldn't get a fix.

If Supermans thoughts move at the speed of light Max Lord wouldn't be albe to do what he did.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Then I'm sure you have a scan stating that explicitly proving this isn't just fanboy conjecture....

He is able spot him coming back when Lightmaster is speed blitzing him.

He spotted Surfer travling at super speed....

This is one of the things it grants him.

Just like he has superhuman strength in his arm, because of it.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Jean is an Omega-level mutant. Cable is not.

Elixir (New Mutants vol. 2 # 12 by Beast)
Jean Grey (X-Men: Forever by Professor X, also known as the White Phoenix of the Crown.)
Iceman (X-Men: Forever)
Mister M (The 198 Files)
Franklin Richards (The 198 Files)
Quentin Quire (Phoenix Endsong #2 by various sources)
Rachel Summers (Uncanny X-Men #208 by Nimrod. Once also held the Phoenix Force.)
Vulcan (X-Men: Deadly Genesis by Professor X)

So where exactly is it stated that Cable is an Omega? 😕

Wikipedia doesn't state many things......

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It was from the moon to Earth and he was only 3/10ths of a second early. Sounds like Cable just overestimated how long it'd take him to get out of the sheathe. Or maybe he took a bit to think of something.

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Why are you trying to prove LM was faster then somebody else's calulations?

They weren't Cable's......

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Do you just make up things based on your own guessing? There's no evidence in those scans that his eye has anything to do with stooping, seeing, or making googly eyes at anything moving at high speeds. You could see the little telepathy bubbles. He was either sensing his mind or was just very aware of a huge area with his telepathy. Kind of like Daredevil and his radar vision.

Stoop?

stoop2 P Pronunciation Key (stp)
n. Chiefly Northeastern U.S.
A small porch, platform, or staircase leading to the entrance of a house or building.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stoop

It was a typo.....

I meant spot.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Flash moves at whatever speed he wants. There's even the infamous time where he evacuates X million, I forgot how many, from that city as it's getting destroyed by a large bomb of some kind in nanoseconds.

Have you ever heard of the speed force and what happens to Flash when he passes light speed?

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
What did you want me to say to you're "and I'm the fanboy" and "yeah dude Superman 10/10", but atleast I don't just copy and past other peoples posts son.😂

Get a clue. I'm not copying and pasting other people's posts "son." 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
Get a clue. I'm not copying and pasting other people's posts "son." 😉

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Originally posted by batdude123
You still haven't proved jack here. Superman moves WAY faster than the speed of light. You're bringing up a pretty much mute point here, however I'll bite. LM was not attacking him at the speed of light. Cable has the brain reactions of a normal human. Yes he has TP and TK, however the reactions are the same. If he WAS actually blitzing him at the speed of light (which he wasn't), then it's PIS. Plain and simple. There's actually no reason why Cable can perceive things going at the speed of light. Superman has also gone so fast before that he created a boom tube in the time dimension and he instantly time travelled. That's quite an impressive feat considering Superman isn't tied to the speed force whatsoever. To give you an idea of exactly how fast that is, Kyle Rayner went from one end of the universe to the other in under a day. Pretty fast, no??? However, when he did this he didn't create a boom tube in the time dimension. So, we can safely assume that Superman was going much faster. Cable doesn't have the reaction speeds, bottom line. Show me Cable reacting to something even CLOSE to that fast please.

Really?? Well I'm inclined to disagree with you here. It goes against the majority of their showings. It doesn't really matter who exactly the writer is, it can still be PIS if it goes against the majority of the character's feats. 😉 You said yourself that the guy is an expert on Flash, that doesn't mean he knows a damn thing about Superman however. Also, Flash not moving past the speed of light is freakin rediculous. Seriously, he has been shown to move HUNDREDS of times the speed of light. You saying that Flash shouldn't be able to move passed light speed only shows your lack of knowledge. Btw, I like how you are leaving out a bunch of what I said to you when you rebuttal. 😆 Don't think I don't notice it. You are fighting a losing battle here junior. 😉 Supes for the win 10/10.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Cable's eye can spot things tha move at the speed of light, which makes him able react to thhings at the speed of light, which I've shown he can do with the Lightmaster fight.

You love to avoid answering direct questions don't you? Cable has existed for well over 10 years and you're basing your entire argument around one single fight. I, and others, have asked you to provide actual on panel proof that Cable's eye can spot things moving at the speed of light because, as much as you like to delude yourself, an objective analysis of the Lightmaster fight reveals that it doesn't prove any of what you claim it does. I'd even settle for another character commenting on these claimed abilities. But apparently you can't find any other evidence of their existence.

You can't prove Lightmaster was moving at light speed when he was fighting Cable, you can't prove detecting objects moving at light speed is an ability Cable's artificial eye has, and you can't prove that Cable can process information at a superhuman rate. Now I ask what is more likely? The fact that you may be misinterpreting this feat or the fact that Cable has always possessed this ability but that it has never been mentioned before or since this and the writers never bothered to document it in any way?

It should be a clue when no one else on KMC is actually agreeing with you...

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

This is a fight that both parties are awear of the fight about to take place which Cable was When lightmaster tried to speed blitz him.

Before the fight took place Cable couldn't fight LM good because his thoughts move at the speed of light so he couldn't get a fix.

If Supermans thoughts move at the speed of light Max Lord wouldn't be albe to do what he did.

Just how fast do you think Superman's thoughts will be moving when Superman is flying around at light speed???

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

He is able spot him coming back when Lightmaster is speed blitzing him.

He spotted Surfer travling at super speed....

This is one of the things it grants him.

Just like he has superhuman strength in his arm, because of it.

There is a giant ball of energy coming right at him and he (and others) are able to spot it and you're claiming that this is some kind of feat?

If his eye grants him that ability then just post a scan of it doing something similar or it being described by someone as being able to do such a thing.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W

Wikipedia doesn't state many things......

And neither do you. I take it this means that you were just talking out of your ass again and can't find a scan stating Cable is an omega-level mutant...

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Cable's eye can spot things tha move at the speed of light, which makes him able react to thhings at the speed of light, which I've shown he can do with the Lightmaster fight.

Really??? Other than that LM fight, do you really have any substantial proof of this, or did you just make it up? Never once when I read Cable did it make a mention to him being able to spot things going super fast with his cybernetic eye.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
This is a fight that both parties are awear of the fight about to take place which Cable was When lightmaster tried to speed blitz him.

Before the fight took place Cable couldn't fight LM good because his thoughts move at the speed of light so he couldn't get a fix.

That's wrong. When LM was blitzing Cable, he wasn't doing anything. He was a sitting duck. However, it was LM that STOPPED and that in turn allowed Cable to use the debris and the BFR for the win. Never once did it depict him being able to track LM when he was going lightspeeds. In fact, this is a redundantly useless fight for this situation. Superman wouldn't stop and allow Cable to use TP, he would keep blitzing him until the job was done. Second, Superman goes MUCH faster than light speed and also his reactions are just WAY above Cable's. Superman would win this fight, drink coffee, have dinner, make love to Lois, and go to sleep all before Cable could even think!!! 😆 Third, Cable's telepathy probably wouldn't even work on Superman. 😬

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
If Supermans thoughts move at the speed of light Max Lord wouldn't be albe to do what he did.

Uh, that's why Max Lord took YEARS for him to successfully control Superman's mind. 😐

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
He is able spot him coming back when Lightmaster is speed blitzing him.

He spotted Surfer travling at super speed....

This is one of the things it grants him.

Just like he has superhuman strength in his arm, because of it.

He didn't beat LM until he completely haulted. Kahn already explained that SS wasn't even going faster than the speed of sound. 😉

Originally posted by TheKahn
You love to avoid answering direct questions don't you? Cable has existed for well over 10 years and you're basing your entire argument around one single fight. I, and others, have asked you to provide actual on panel proof that Cable's eye can spot things moving at the speed of light because, as much as you like to delude yourself, an objective analysis of the Lightmaster fight reveals that it doesn't prove any of what you claim it does. I'd even settle for another character commenting on these claimed abilities. But apparently you can't find any other evidence of their existence.

You can't prove Lightmaster was moving at light speed when he was fighting Cable, you can't prove detecting objects moving at light speed is an ability Cable's artificial eye has, and you can't prove that Cable can process information at a superhuman rate. Now I ask what is more likely? The fact that you may be misinterpreting this feat or the fact that Cable has always possessed this ability but that it has never been mentioned before or since this and the writers never bothered to document it in any way?

It should be a clue when no one else on KMC is actually agreeing with you...

Just how fast do you think Superman's thoughts will be moving when Superman is flying around at light speed???

There is a giant ball of energy coming right at him and he (and others) are able to spot it and you're claiming that this is some kind of feat?

If his eye grants him that ability then just post a scan of it doing something similar or it being described by someone as being able to do such a thing.

And neither do you. I take it this means that you were just talking out of your ass again and can't find a scan stating Cable is an omega-level mutant...

Damn straight Kahn. His whole arguement is based on assumption. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
Damn straight Kahn. His whole arguement is based on assumption. 😬

Yep so he is right 😛

Originally posted by Broly92
Yep so he is wrong. 😛
Originally posted by batdude123
I suck

Uh the Maxlord Incident can bite my ass for Superman, MM did it in seconds, thanks🙂 So if dinky maxlord can I know if given no speedblitz Cable could as well😛

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh the Maxlord Incident can bite my ass for Superman, MM did it in seconds, thanks🙂

Max Lord incident: High showing for Superman

MM incident: Low showing for Superman

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Originally posted by batdude123
Max Lord incident: High showing for Superman

MM incident: Low showing for Superman

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So right inbetween Cable will go, if you want to show a high for MM then it needs to be constant silly laddy!

So if the situation was such Cable had been given 5 minutes of prep Superman would go down, to bad no one makes freakin marvel threads with that in mind with DC speedsters lol.

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh the Maxlord Incident can bite my ass for Superman, MM did it in seconds, thanks🙂 So if dinky maxlord can I know if given no speedblitz Cable could as well😛

Originally posted by batdude123
Eh, two problems with that:

1. Superman's not going to be sitting there like a duck. He is going to be speedblitzing him. 😉

2. Who's to say that Superman wouldn't mind rape Cable before Cable even gets the chance? Superman's reaction speeds are much higher. 😗

Also, I don't want to call it PIS, however it is a pretty low showing from Superman. We are in fact using Superman to the best of his ability.

This is what I had to say about it earlier. 🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh the Maxlord Incident can bite my ass for Superman, MM did it in seconds, thanks🙂 So if dinky maxlord can I know if given no speedblitz Cable could as well😛

What MM incident? Just out of curiousity.