Originally posted by SkeetsYes, any of the Linear Men can step between seconds to appear faster than Flash.
I would imagine that he could I wouldn't put it past him.People have Surfer right where he belongs among the Hero elite.Quick question as I'm trying to understand waverider a bit more,damn you avalon you got me all into this guy I have never paid attention to.
Since waverider has total control over time would it be possible for him to duplicate Zooms powers or along those lines?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This is what annoys me about SS. There is no proof that he can do something, but it's guesstimated and seemingly accepted as fact. Should marvel state it specifically as an official part of his powerset, or should somebody come up with irrefutable proof that SS has that kind of power then I'll gladly accept it.
That's the thing about SS - though he is my favorite character - that kinda annoys me to.
Surfer's power is, how can I put this, "connotative" more than "denotative." His powers can be stated in words, up to a point, but included is the implication/understanding that his powerset doesn't end with what is put into words. This does make it difficult to 1) know what his exact limits are (for fun purposes, as in forum debates); and 2) it makes story-telling either difficult or full of PIS.
Personally, I've always opted for a "simpler" Surfer - just as powerful (if not moreso) - but with far less versatility. Nix all that matter transmutation and time manip stuff. All he needed, really, as a planet-finder was cosmic awareness, bolts, shields (to further his already nigh-invulnerable form) to subdue resistant residents; and if we even limited his energy use to only when he's on his board, we further get rid of the paradox as to why he needs his board to fly. On the same token, he would show tremendous physical power and fighting skill when not on his board.
*sigh* well, it's a nice dream, anyway.
As for amping his strength...
If it says in his bio (in many bios: this has been consistent) that he can amp his strength to "incalculable" levels, then it is fair game, IMO, to assume he can do so, even if this has never been shown, likely because Surfer doesn't have to (Thanos aside); it's not his modus operandi.
I still agree that BFR is Surfer's best option for defeating DD. But I'm not sold on his getting curb-tomped otherwise, given the strength (and speed!) option. That he didn't fair well in h2h against Thanos, well, that has been considered as PIS by many.
And to be honest: I don't know if my version of Surfer would do as well against DD, given the removal of the BFR option. But pitting DD against a physically/martial-art capable Surfer would, I think, make for a much more exciting battle, comparable to Superman vs DD.
(yes, I'm dreaming again...)
Originally posted by Mindship
That's the thing about SS - though he is my favorite character - that kinda annoys me to.
Surfer's power is, how can I put this, "connotative" more than "denotative." His powers can be stated in words, up to a point, but included is the implication/understanding that his powerset doesn't end with what is put into words. This does make it difficult to 1) know what his exact limits are (for fun purposes, as in forum debates); and 2) it makes story-telling either difficult or full of PIS.Personally, I've always opted for a "simpler" Surfer - just as powerful (if not moreso) - but with far less versatility. Nix all that matter transmutation and time manip stuff. All he needed, really, as a planet-finder was cosmic awareness, bolts, shields (to further his already nigh-invulnerable form) to subdue resistant residents; and if we even limited his energy use to only when he's on his board, we further get rid of the paradox as to why he needs his board to fly. On the same token, he would show tremendous physical power and fighting skill when not on his board.
*sigh* well, it's a nice dream, anyway.
As for amping his strength...
If it says in his bio (in many bios: this has been consistent) that he can amp his strength to "incalculable" levels, then it is fair game, IMO, to assume he can do so, even if this has never been shown, likely because Surfer doesn't have to (Thanos aside); it's not his modus operandi.I still agree that BFR is Surfer's best option for defeating DD. But I'm not sold on his getting curb-tomped otherwise, given the strength (and speed!) option. That he didn't fair well in h2h against Thanos, well, that has been considered as PIS by many.
And to be honest: I don't know if my version of Surfer would do as well against DD, given the removal of the BFR option. But pitting DD against a physically/martial-art capable Surfer would, I think, make for a much more exciting battle, comparable to Superman vs DD.
(yes, I'm dreaming again...)
Well said. The surfer you described already sounds like a far more interesting character.
Originally posted by SkeetsMatthew Ryder, Travis O'Connell, Liri Lee, Rip Hunter, and Waverider[Who is actually Matthew Ryder from another time/universe/hypertime/bla].
Linear men ? how many are there?
They watch over time from a place called Vanishing Point. And only make apperances typically during the most pivotol of times.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
he get's the lunatik treatment when surfer realizes doomsday is barely sapient