WhiteWitchKing
Senior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
[B]A Guardian killed Galactus in JLA/Avengers. >.>
Krona, a rogue Guardian turned into pure energy, who spent his exilement exploring universes.
No other Guardian has shown to destroy a universe. A regular guardian would get a curbstomping by Galactus.
If every Guardian is on Krona's level during JLA/Avengers, then are we to assume that Doomsday is more powerful than a universe. DD greater than a universe.
With an absent thought they can destroy planets.
Ganthet was said to be able to do this. And if I remembered correctly, it a just a planet, not planets. And just cause Ganthet is said to be able to do it really doesn't mean every Guardian is on his level.
They are nigh unconfrontable godlike beings.
To claim they aren't on Surfer's level is rediculous.
What does this matter really considering DD had a GL ring? He really wasn't your typical Doomsday.
Even with the ring, I don't think he would have survived a conflict with a Guardian. That Guardian jobbed like no other. 😕
That would be like saying The Anti-Monitor isn't on Surfer's level, due to feats.
The Anti-Monitor absorbed a universe, his. That's far above Surfer.
Waverider has shown many of Surfers abilities in very few appearances, plus he can manipulate anything to do with time on a whim. But he's never had a 60 issue run or so to flesh him out really. See what Av said above, there's nothing really to prove that Surfer's in his level either. Part of being a Linear Man is about NOT getting involved, but a few times they have.
So did he use his powers intelligently? Avy said Waverider could use his power to turn Surfer back to Norrin. If that's is truly how powerful Waverider is, why does he not turn DD back into a child? Or are we going to argue that evolution is greater than Galactus' power cosmic and so it would work with Surfer but not DD?
The Raidiant was a cosmic energy being, and he unleashed a cosmic blast with force enough to destroy an entire planet on Doomsday, and Doomsday cut through the blast while he was unleashing it and tore him in half, killing him instantly.
But he couldn't cut Superman in half and kill him.
Lets not forget he also dropped a Darkseid Avatar, [which have been beaten by other people, but mostly through plot devices, unlike Doomsday but on the same note, some have absolutely demolished teams of heros.
Suprised Darkseid from behind after Darkseid knocked him on his ass in one shot. It doesn't show Darkseid doing anything impressive with his OE.
Or killing Superman, who's feats easily place him in herald level.
They both were knocked out. That's not considered a win in a forum fight. And all Superman did was trade punches against him. That's not Surfer level who barely trades punches.
Surfer wins via destroying DD at a subatomic level.