Silver Surfer vs Doomsday

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Originally posted by deathslash
That will forever be the one piece of lore about Doomsday that makes it impossible to suspend my disbelief. He can apparently think and show cruelty, but somehow doesn't have a brain? He can get killed by being beat to death, but somehow doesn't have organs? How does he function with no sustenance? Sure, sunlight empowers him; but do the writers honestly expect us to believe that he's never landed on a planet without a yellow sun to sustain his energy? What even is the point of him still having a mouth if he doesn't need to eat anything? How the hell does he grow bones without the required calcium? If he doesn't have organs, what is even pumping his blood?

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Comics......by the by, he didn't have blood in HP.

Originally posted by carver9
Create Black hole...
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/5482436-highlightedss.png

Reconstruct a city (change the battlefield)...

https://m.imgur.com/6sJicok

Transform gold into sand...

https://m.imgur.com/ZdyVZ5v

That was easy. What else did I say?

Trap Doomsday in his board and send him to the sun...

https://m.imgur.com/HbfiRnh

Turn small...

https://m.imgur.com/xYyALNA

Shrunk himself so small that atoms becomes the size of solar systems...

https://m.imgur.com/zUOxNr1

Surfer shrinks himself. Flies inside of Doomsday. He then creates a bunch of black holes. Doomsday dies instantly. Surfer stomps. Simple.


Good
Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday adapts to these and oneshots Surfer. GG carvster

Originally posted by abhilegend
Good

Even you dont believe Doomsday would live with active black holes inside of him.

Originally posted by carver9
Even you dont believe Doomsday would live with active black holes inside of him.

Why not? Xorn does after all. Black holes are just jobbers.

Originally posted by carver9
Even you dont believe Doomsday would live with active black holes inside of him.

Scans of Surfer creating black holes INSIDE someone? Scans of Surfer creating black holes when atom sized? Scans of said atomic black holes hurting someone?

He’s applying an actual feat to a possible strategy. Invisible Woman never used her forcefields on anyone’s testicles before, but are you saying that because there’s no scan, she wouldn’t/couldn’t do it against Doomsday... assuming he has testicles ?

Originally posted by Wheeler
Scans of Surfer creating black holes INSIDE someone? Scans of Surfer creating black holes when atom sized? Scans of said atomic black holes hurting someone?

When Surfer shrunk in the scans I showed you, he was still able to use his powers. What kind of questions are these? He doesnt HAVE to shrink to the size of an atom. He can shrink small enough to not be seen by Doomsday BUT able to entire him and cause damage.

Sigh, Silver Surfer is about our height, I might be taller. He created a Black that was seen across space...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75314/1586151-annihilationsilversurfe2.jpg

What kind of questions are you asking me? I'm sure he can do this twice since he wasnt even depleted of power. Even if he was depleted, he have time on his hand. He could simply absorb the radiation within Doomsday body to keep himself replenished so that he can make more black holes. Anymore questions?

Would Susan be able to make those shields around DD's testicles if she were atom sized? i mean relatively speaking those nuts would be bigger than the Sun. If that were the case i could either equate full sized Sue's feats to atom sized Sue's OR i could be a little skeptical, asking that maybe the reason a versatile character like Surfer doesn't go microscopic against Thanos and shoot up black holes up the latter's mucous membrane everytime is because it just might not be all that effective.

Originally posted by Wheeler
Would Susan be able to make those shields around DD's testicles if she were atom sized? i mean relatively speaking those nuts would be bigger than the Sun. If that were the case i could either equate full sized Sue's feats to atom sized Sue's OR i could be a little skeptical, asking that maybe the reason a versatile character like Surfer doesn't go microscopic against Thanos and shoot up black holes up the latter's mucous membrane everytime is because it just might not be all that effective.

Surfer created a black hole seen across space and it was still growing. Do you not understand that small blackholes are still hazardous against even elite Heralds?

Originally posted by deathslash
That will forever be the one piece of lore about Doomsday that makes it impossible to suspend my disbelief. He can apparently think and show cruelty, but somehow doesn't have a brain? He can get killed by being beat to death, but somehow doesn't have organs? How does he function with no sustenance? Sure, sunlight empowers him; but do the writers honestly expect us to believe that he's never landed on a planet without a yellow sun to sustain his energy? What even is the point of him still having a mouth if he doesn't need to eat anything? How the hell does he grow bones without the required calcium? If he doesn't have organs, what is even pumping his blood?

If you read Hunter Prey, it was showed that DD was genetically breed to evolve. Every time he dies, the scientist would grab the body and patch him up and start the process all over again. He’s adaptability came from that.

DD before becoming DD used to bleed, needed to breath and eat, it was his father that removed those aspects from him by killing him over and over on Krypton.

Also, DD stores sunlight even better than Kal, remember that DOS takes place at least a few thousands years after DD died fighting the Radiant. DD body was then cover in that prison, put on space ship, where said space ship landed on Earth and spent thousands of years under ground with no sunlight whatsoever.

He’s energy was so great, that when he escaped, and with just one hand was punching the ship so hard, that tremors were felt. Remember, DD was dead for thousands of years and lack any sunlight.

What's the big deal? Surfer has shown that he can create black holes. The question here is whether or not Doomsday can survive one. Doomsday can't fly, so being landlocked would mean that he gets pulled into one right? I'm not arguing the idea of the Surfer placing one in his stomach, because there probably aren't any scenes showing him doing this, even though he could likely do exactly what Carver has been saying this entire time. Again, the question doesn't rest on whether the Surfer can achieve this power stunt, the question lies on whether or not Doomsday can survive being sucked into one from the inside out? Or, being pulled into one in general. Seems to me like DD likely becomes perma BFR'd at the very least.

Would a Black hole works though?

DD was able to adapt on the fly against Rider’s Chrono powers, outright rejected him-true it was a far stronger DD, but still.

Also pre DOS DD also survived a tear in space by the Guardian.

Well Doomsday beat Darkseid, and according to Death Battle, Darkseid would beat Thanos very very easily. And Thanos beat Silver Surfer very easily. So that means Doomsday would win here very very very very easily.

Originally posted by RadZoa
Well Doomsday beat Darkseid, and according to Death Battle, Darkseid would beat Thanos very very easily. And Thanos beat Silver Surfer very easily. So that means Doomsday would win here very very very very easily.
DB isn't official sources so using it to prove DD > Silver Surfer couldn't work

But DD has many impressive feats to supporting him, He could easily take down entire JL(DOS, Doomsday wars) easily wrecked a bunch of imperiex probes, One-shotted a clone of himself that need lots of heroes to take down. Beats Darkseid etc,etc,etc..........

So it’s settled then. Because there are no scans of Doomsday surviving a black hole to the abdomen, Surfer wins.

doomsday stomps. how is this thread still open?

I just said! There’s no scan of DD surving blackholes to the abdomen!

Originally posted by SquallX
Would a Black hole works though?

DD was able to adapt on the fly against Rider’s Chrono powers, outright rejected him-true it was a far stronger DD, but still.

Also pre DOS DD also survived a tear in space by the Guardian.

I'd be able to see your point more clearly if DD had infinite weight attached to him which prevented him from being pulled into a black hole, but he was easily lifted off of his feet, and or floated by a punch. I believe that the Surfer would be able to easily BFR him.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'd be able to see your point more clearly if DD had infinite weight attached to him which prevented him from being pulled into a black hole, but he was easily lifted off of his feet, and or floated by a punch. I believe that the Surfer would be able to easily BFR him.

I wasn’t really defending DD not being affected by a black hole, but the fact that he could become immune to it somehow.

I’m stretching this theory quite a bit, since H/P DD evolved on the fly to stop Wave Rider from messing with him with his Chrono powers.

What's the likelihood of Surfer opening up a black hole on DD?
If he does then I guess he could win.
But it doesn't seem likely he would do that.

If anyone disagrees then they have to accept Surfer beating Thanos, Odin, etc that way.