Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And you are so bad in twisted words, Doomsday turns around and says "rrrrrr?" he clearly doesn'y know what omega beams is, And why are you mentioning omega beams when I talking about is Doomsday faster than Darkseid reaction( Nanosecond-level)And yes you really need stop if you are just twisting comics statements and my points
Doomsday did creep up on him. You can't deny it. Darkseid was walking away in confidence, and suddenly got bumrushed. It's all there.
Originally posted by StoicI never want to argue who is the winner, I just disagree with Carver's statements about Doomsday
Read the dialogue. Time how long it took for you to read it. In the amount of time it takes for you to read it, the Surfer flew 15 light years away, and is chilling on some mythical planet named Stahlag-14.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yes, I absolutely agree.I'm just laughing at Carver getting all pissy about the full capacity rule, and coming in as if Surfer is now this guy who can scan the entire battlefield in picoseconds, have his board fly into Doomsday's head at 100x lightspeed, then trap him in there, whilst simultaneously cloning himself into multiple Surfers, draining him of all radiation, rewriting his DNA, stealing his soul, turning him into snow, opening black holes in him, whilst, I dunno, mindraping him or something.
That's not what the Full Capacity rule was about, and never was. He's taken one power -speed- from characters who are pretty basic -Flash/Supergirl - and now is applying it to ALL powers, twisting it beyond all recognition.
Ok, I'll use one power. Surfer creates a black hole under Doomsday ft or by him for the easy win. Is that better? It's easy for Surfer to do. This is a character that can do anything and he have created things on numerous of occasions. Question, how do you think Surfer will approach this fight?
Originally posted by StoicThen trying to explain why in this scan Darkseid said "impossible"
Doomsday did creep up on him. You can't deny it. Darkseid was walking away in confidence, and suddenly got bumrushed. It's all there.
Or in this scan Doomsday beating Darkseid before he could use omega beams
https://i.postimg.cc/pWyqnJ6G/Superman-Doomsday-036.jpg
"You can't deny it" only works when you using logic explanations and contering my logic, Not just saying "You can't deny it" and then suddenly you're right
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yes, I absolutely agree.I'm just laughing at Carver getting all pissy about the full capacity rule, and coming in as if Surfer is now this guy who can scan the entire battlefield in picoseconds, have his board fly into Doomsday's head at 100x lightspeed, then trap him in there, whilst simultaneously cloning himself into multiple Surfers, draining him of all radiation, rewriting his DNA, stealing his soul, turning him into snow, opening black holes in him, whilst, I dunno, mindraping him or something.
That's not what the Full Capacity rule was about, and never was. He's taken one power -speed- from characters who are pretty basic -Flash/Supergirl - and now is applying it to ALL powers, twisting it beyond all recognition.
Then the madness should end. Everyone knows, or should know that Doomsday would beat the shit out of the Surfer if this were a brawl for all, and that depends on whether or not the Surfer can or can't exploit Doomsday's solar enriched body the way that he does with the Hulk. I'm saying maybe, because the Surfer can also adapt to an extent. But on the other hand the Surfer has a lot going for him. If I was asked who I wanted to be in a Death Match between these two, I'd say Surfer because of the of abilities that he has shown over the years. Doomsday can win though.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I'll use one power. Surfer creates a black hole under Doomsday ft or by him for the easy win. Is that better? It's easy for Surfer to do. This is a character that can do anything and he have created things on numerous of occasions. Question, how do you think Surfer will approach this fight?
I think he'll try blasting with energy blasts, Doomsday will laugh at him, whilst charging, punch the phuck out of him, and in a last ditch move, he sends him away.
He's not starting the match with a black hole. He's fought plenty of monsters before, dangerous monsters, and he's never used it as a battle tactic.
That I know of, of course. Like I've said before, Wally has burnt the eyes of his opponents out, and boiled them alive.
All done before, all in a canon comic.
Doesn't mean he's doing it in a forum match, does it? It's simple for him to do.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Then trying to explain why in this scan Darkseid said "impossible"
https://i.postimg.cc/sVTTXNwG/Superman-Doomsday-034.jpgOr in this scan Doomsday beating Darkseid before he could use omega beams
https://i.postimg.cc/pWyqnJ6G/Superman-Doomsday-036.jpg"You can't deny it" only works when you using logic explanations and contering my logic, Not just saying "You can't deny it" and then suddenly you're right
Doomsday turned around and said rrrrrrrr before the beams hit him.
Also the showing that you're using as a speed ft for Doomsday reacting before the Omegas, Darkseid got out an entire sentence while his eyes were glowing before Doomsday hit him. "I'll use the Omega Beams, from point blank range" and then Doomsday punch him. That isnt an impressive ft.
Originally posted by carver9
😂So Doomsday didnt stop, pause, and turn his head before the Omegas hit him?
I'm mentioning the Omegas because you called me a liar because Doomsday back was turned when Darkseid hit him but is in denial that Darkseid back was turned when Doomsday attacked him.
What nano second fts does Darkseid have? This is hilarious. EVERYONE is being deamed as light speed. You all pass this around like candy. I dont think you all grasp what this type of speed is and how delicate both Marvel and DC treats this.
Do you read my post?
Doomsday turns around and says "rrrrrr?" he clearly doesn'y know what omega beams is,
This scan, Darkseid clearly noticed Doomsday and even said"impossible"https://i.postimg.cc/sVTTXNwG/Superman-Doomsday-034.jpg
If Doomsday speed not at nanosecond-level then Darkseid turned his back or not really doesn't matter since to Darkseid doomsday just a statue
And how you explain the last scan Doomsday beating Darkseid?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Then trying to explain why in this scan Darkseid said "impossible"
https://i.postimg.cc/sVTTXNwG/Superman-Doomsday-034.jpgOr in this scan Doomsday beating Darkseid before he could use omega beams
https://i.postimg.cc/pWyqnJ6G/Superman-Doomsday-036.jpg"You can't deny it" only works when you using logic explanations and contering my logic, Not just saying "You can't deny it" and then suddenly you're right
He says it after being hit from behind. He then reacts by saying impossible because no one other than those that are deemed universally important can survive it. However, that wasn't the true Darkseid, it was an avatar.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think he'll try blasting with energy blasts, Doomsday will laugh at him, whilst charging, punch the phuck out of him, and in a last ditch move, he sends him away.He's not starting the match with a black hole. He's fought plenty of monsters before, dangerous monsters, and he's never used it as a battle tactic.
That I know of, of course. Like I've said before, Wally has burnt the eyes of his opponents out, and boiled them alive.
All done before, all in a canon comic.
Doesn't mean he's doing it in a forum match, does it? It's simple for him to do.
🤣🤣🤣... so now you want to use comics as a way a character fights. I cant debate with you any longer.
Originally posted by carver9
Doomsday turned around and said rrrrrrrr before the beams hit him.Also the showing that you're using as a speed ft for Doomsday reacting before the Omegas, Darkseid got out an entire sentence while his eyes were glowing before Doomsday hit him. "I'll use the Omega Beams, from point blank range" and then Doomsday punch him. That isnt an impressive ft.
Doomsday was said "rrrrrrrr?" Why you ignoring the "?"
A lot of characters speak words when they are in super-speed
For example: Superman and Zod speaking with each other in super-speed
https://i.postimg.cc/bJttzrwP/1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/wMYs3z1m/2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/90Pw7k9N/3.jpg
So using a character who has super-speed saying a sentence to proves he isn't fast just stupid
Originally posted by Stoiche is said that sentence and then he being hit from behind,
He says it after being hit from behind. He then reacts by saying impossible because no one other than those that are deemed universally important can survive it. However, that wasn't the true Darkseid, it was an avatar.
And think about: How could he says it while being hit from behind...............
And the nanosecond-level reaction Batman certainly was referring to Darkseid avatar since he said them never encounter really Darkseid
"we may only be battling a physical shell in the third dimension"
https://i.postimg.cc/FKtvMH83/2.jpg
1. If Surfer has any feats of reacting significantly (him moving a significant/relevant distance or him activating a relevant power) in a millisecond or less AFTER and in response to an event that had just occurred, then post them. Surfers traveling feats in space are not combat speed feats.
2. If someone has any feats of Surfer significantly damaging or koing someone with Superman level durability (especially the extreme durability against energy blasts) then post them.
We are going in circles here. I like Surfer a lot (trust me I do) but I'm not going to give him abilities I never seen.
Basically we need proof that Surfer can react and respond to DD blitzes and proof that Surfer can harm him significantly.
Originally posted by Stoic
Then the madness should end. Everyone knows, or should know that Doomsday would beat the shit out of the Surfer if this were a brawl for all, and that depends on whether or not the Surfer can or can't exploit Doomsday's solar enriched body the way that he does with the Hulk. I'm saying maybe, because the Surfer can also adapt to an extent. But on the other hand the Surfer has a lot going for him. If I was asked who I wanted to be in a Death Match between these two, I'd say Surfer because of the of abilities that he has shown over the years. Doomsday can win though.
This is the exact point I’ve been trying to make. Surfer has decades of exotic and sometimes godlike feats at his disposal. DD has some amazing feats too, but he doesn’t stomp Surfer 10/10. H1 was the only one arguing w me about that and his points about atmospheric drag and the OBs are absolutely valid, but don’t give it to DD 10/10, at all. That’s all I was saying.
Also @PR the ban on Supes extends to just mentioning him? I thought we just couldn’t create or post in threads that feature him in the actual vs as an individual or member of a team.
Also what’s JFC mean?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Doomsday was said "rrrrrrrr?" Why you ignoring the "?"A lot of characters speak words when they are in super-speed
For example: Superman and Zod speaking with each other in super-speed
https://i.postimg.cc/bJttzrwP/1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/wMYs3z1m/2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/90Pw7k9N/3.jpgSo using a character who has super-speed saying a sentence to proves he isn't fast just stupid
😂 😂
Originally posted by h1a8
1. If Surfer has any feats of reacting significantly (him moving a significant/relevant distance or him activating a relevant power) in a millisecond or less AFTER and in response to an event that had just occurred, then post them. Surfers traveling feats in space are not combat speed feats.2. If someone has any feats of Surfer significantly damaging or koing someone with Superman level durability (especially the extreme durability against energy blasts) then post them.
We are going in circles here. I like Surfer a lot (trust me I do) but I'm not going to give him abilities I never seen.
Basically we need proof that Surfer can react and respond to DD blitzes and proof that Surfer can harm him significantly.
First you post Doomsday covering the distance in this thread before a character reacts.
Originally posted by carver9😂 😂
😂 😂
BTW, Doomsday still has lots of proofs to supporting his battle speed: Battling with Superman multiple times and almost everytime he proves he is an equal to Superman ,Battling JL, Smashing Imperiex probes, etc,etc
Hell, Even a inferior clone needs a bunch of heroes to take down, And one of them could easily beating Cyborg Superman and Supergirl in Reign of Doomsday
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ahhhh so you're not using full capacity any longer, and now using low-ballling.Didn't take you long to flip flop, lol.
Surfer gets Mexican'd.
I SPECIFICALLY used Guy's flight, because Stoic was using Surfer's flight.
And weren't you using Blue Marvel's flight speed a week or so ago? 😂
