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Originally posted by Dirty Vader
Mel Gibson's a smart man and was a cool actor. What he said is actually true, but most of the ignorants just bite on what the media (owned by the jews) wants them to believe and despise him.Want proof to back what he's saying? Just watch the current aggression of israel.
Your validity on this thread is now nullified, Mr. Vader.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001They were too stupid? Wow. Just wow.
The civilians have had ample time to get out. And don't use that whole 'some were too poor' statement, it's just about getting old because I've heard it used so many times. Some may have down right refused to leave, or some were just too stupid to notice all the refugees leaving.
Originally posted by Draco69Between civilians and the Lebanese uniformed army, yes. Between civilians and Hezbollah, not always, marked ambulances are pretty easy to discern, likewise the children in Qana.
Is there actually a discernable difference between civilians and Lebanon armed forces. They all seem to take refuge in civilian homes.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001Obviously the only thing your focusing on is Israeli civilians with no regard whatsoever for non-Israeli civilians, much like the IDF. Katyusha rocket attacks have continued unabated. The indiscriminate and disproportionate bombing of civilian territories with disregard for foreseeable civilian casualties is achieving nothing.
Obviously that's the only thing you're focusing on.Attacking civilians? The word 'attack' is not proper. Remember, these are terrorist that the Israelis are dealing with here. Do you somehow not understand how vulnerable Israel could become if they hesitated bombing an area? What if civilians are stilled killed even after Israel takes precautions in bombing an area? What would the point be in continuing on with this tactic?
Originally posted by Draco69While at the same time enforcing apartheid policies and annexing land illegally.
For what? Israel has been trying for years to conduct peace talks.
Originally posted by PVSPretty much.
i guess illegal occupation and repeated acts of indiscriminate killing are easily forgiven, so long as its isreal.make no mistake, there is evil on both fronts. but to sit there and paint iseal as the good guys in white...just mindnumbing.
Originally posted by Deus VenèficusI'm sorry but are you trying to spin that knowingly killing 4 U.N. observers was a good thing? Would you prefer it be praised rather than condemned? Do you believe the standard of conduct for a sovereign nation's army should be only be expected to match that of a militant group? If a nation's acts in a certain way during conflict, it must be both ready to justify it and to be held to account for its conduct.
As noble of an idea this is... really it's never going to happen. War is war and is never going to truly follow a set of rules and regulations. The United Nations Charter, the Geneva conventions and the Hague conventions are merely feel-good policies that are rarely if ever followed by both parties in a real war.War is s virtually a inherently lawless concept to begin with, and trying to add regulations to such a barbaric institution is denial.
Example: The Hezbollah was using the late U.N Observation outpost as cover to launch missiles into Israeli territory and kill Israeli civilians. Israel in response blows the place up and tragically kills the U.N observers inside. This is sad yes, but necessary as Israel eliminated a military target. But of course the modern world being full of hypocrisy sees only the dead U.N observers and not the reasons and the why behind it. They only condemn the fact that it did not follow the rules of engagement or some such crap like that. Either that or no one knew that the U.N outpost was being used as a cover for Hezbollah missiles. I wonder if Hezbollah really cares about the rules of engagement hmm? Apparently not.
Source: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50&p=1
Hezbollah was birthed 24 years ago by Israeli incursion and occupation of southern Lebanon for 22 years. One can only wonder what will be born out of this conflict.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hezbollah was birthed 24 years ago by Israeli incursion and occupation of southern Lebanon for 22 years. One can only wonder what will be born out of this conflict.
Israel+U.S.+U.K+Japan (x)
Lebanon+Syria+Iran+N.Korea+China
=WWIII
(or the second coming of Christ, if you believe in that sort of thing.)
Originally posted by sithsaber408Japan doesn't have a standing army. Lebanon's army is incredibly weak. China and the U.S. are both heavily economically reliant on one another. The world doesn't work the way it did 70 years ago, a WWIII of the fashion of WWII is not plausible.
Israel+U.S.+U.K+Japan (x)Lebanon+Syria+Iran+N.Korea+China
=WWIII
(or the second coming of Christ, if you believe in that sort of thing.)
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Japan doesn't have a standing army. Lebanon's army is incredibly weak. China and the U.S. are both heavily economically reliant on one another. The world doesn't work the way it did 70 years ago, a WWIII of the fashion of WWII is not plausible.
Neither is a lasting peace between Israel and its neighbors.
No matter if an agreement is reached between Hezzbolah and Israel or not.
It will only be temporary.
Iran wants Israel gone, Palestine would at least want more of Israel's land, and now we even have Sunni Muslims in Iraq siding with Hezzbolah.
Make no mistake, wether its now or 5 to 10 years from now, some shit is going down with Israel.
We will stand with them, and our allies with us. (tell the last of the Japanese troops that returned home from Iraq just last week that Japan has no army.)
Iran, N. Korea, and possibly China and maybe even Russia will side against us.
Just watch.
Originally posted by sithsaber408Not unless concessions are made on both sides.
Neither is a lasting peace between Israel and its neighbors.
Originally posted by sithsaber408In the short term, this current conflict will likely end in a prisoner exchange.
No matter if an agreement is reached between Hezzbolah and Israel or not.
Originally posted by sithsaber408Palestinians want more of their land back, illegally annexed by Israel.
Palestine would at least want more of Israel's land
Originally posted by sithsaber408One doesn't need to wait 5-10 years. There is an intifada now.
Make no mistake, wether its now or 5 to 10 years from now, some shit is going down with Israel.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
We will stand with them, and our allies with us. (tell the last of the Japanese troops that returned home from Iraq just last week that Japan has no army.)
Originally posted by sithsaber408Your views on world politics are inaccurate.
Iran, N. Korea, and possibly China and maybe even Russia will side against us.Just watch.
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I want to continue where I left off last week because after seven more days of constant propaganda over what is now a full blown war in the Middle East some balance and background is desperately required here.We keep being told that the conflict was started by Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip when a total of three Israeli soldiers were kidnapped. Bullshit. What is happening is the latest outbreak of hostilities that began when the Rothschild dynasty targeted what was then Arab Palestine to be what it called a 'Homeland for the Jews'.
Originally posted by Deano
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Thanks deano, helpful as always.
Originally posted by Deano
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Your sig is quite appropriate as you sure aren't thinking independently.