Israel and Lebanon

Started by Mindship43 pages

Whether or not one agrees with what's happening, those who understand Israel's response reason from observation and history.
Those who do not understand, and condemn, reason from speculation.

There is a difference between a response, which is justified by Isreal's history...and startign a war.

Originally posted by Alliance
There is a difference between a response, which is justified by Isreal's history...and startign a war.

It's always a sad day when terrorists hide behind inocents and create such a stir in the world.

There is no negotiating with groups such as Hezbollah, there is no lets make peace. Their intentions are very clear and they are very vocal about it and have been since before these altercations on Wed and Thur.

It would appear that both Syria and Iran are using the Hezbollah as an "independant" tool to further their means and doing this through the poor Lebanese.

Seriously you need to stop with the justified part. Is any violence really justified? One thing that is very clear though is that the Lebanon govt cannot stop the Hezbollah, the Hezbollah are a part of the govt and will act to their own will without reprisal in the Lebanese govt. So who pays the price, up until now it has been Israel, now its the unfortunate Lebanese innocents.

Its a shame some of the "almighty" UN sanctions didn't work, then this would have never taken place huh.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People seem to be going mad and believing this will lead to WWIII, does anyone else here share the sentiment? Why? Why not?

It seems there are some politically inclined folks here, so I'm hoping to get a genuine response rather than "OH NO! FIGHTINGS! WAR!".

-AC

I think the biggest concern is that Israel will expand its operations into Syria. By attacking Syria, Israel knows that it’s not only attacking Syria, it’s attacking Iran. Syria and Iran have a pact, and Iran has already made public its desire to wipe out Israel and will certainly aid Syria if it is attacked.

As we all know, Iran has been at the center of world politics for awhile due to their nuclear programs and the possibility that they may be making nuclear weapons. Now, they surely don’t have nuclear weapons yet, but if they get into a war it will certainly speed up the process. The main problem here is that if Iran and Syria attack Israel, Israel cannot win without aid from its allies. And if Israel loses, it loses everything. Many nations in that region have made it well known that they would like nothing more than to wipe Israel off the map. This conflict could unite the Arab world against them, and I feel that Israel’s enemies would do just that if they won the war...and the West is not going to sit back and watch their greatest ally in the region be destroyed.

Another key element in this potential crisis is the U.S./British occupation of Iraq. If Iran and Syria get involved, the West is right smack in the middle of it all. It’s hard to say exactly how the West would react if Iran and Syria get involved, but I think it’s safe to say that Western military action will take place.

Also, this situation could be pushed even further into global conflict. Iran may ally itself with North Korea against a common enemy (the United States and its allies). This may lead countries like Russia and China to take sides in the conflict, most likely supporting their Iranian and North Korean neighbors.

This is all speculation, of course, but I believe that there is a chance of it happening, and it all depends on whether Israel attacks Syria or not.

It sounds like you've definitely thought it out, but then again you have to remember that it's not just like having a fist fight, a world war would be serious business and I seriously doubt that ANYONE is willing to just dive into a situation that might cause one.

-AC

The lengths fellow members of our race can go to achieve their goals; however, misguided never ceases to astound me...

I have little faith that humanity will have the intelligence to realize World War is not the way to go. Then again I'm bias because I lost faith in humanity awhile ago.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It sounds like you've definitely thought it out, but then again you have to remember that it's not just like having a fist fight, a world war would be serious business and I seriously doubt that ANYONE is willing to just dive into a situation that might cause one.

-AC

I agree, and I also think that Israel knows what the consequences would be for attacking Syria, not only in regard to themselves but on a bigger scale that includes their allies and the possibility of global escalation. And while Israel's actions in recent days have been interpreted as extremely aggressive and unfounded, I would certainly hope they won't go as far as to attack Syria, given the likely consequences of those actions.

Does anyone know anything about the 6 day war then?

Originally posted by §cimitar
Does anyone know anything about the 6 day war then?

Yes

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People seem to be going mad and believing this will lead to WWIII, does anyone else here share the sentiment? Why? Why not?

It seems there are some politically inclined folks here, so I'm hoping to get a genuine response rather than "OH NO! FIGHTINGS! WAR!".

-AC

I cant see WWIII breaking out because of a middle easy conflict. If anything I think WWIII will have to do with North Korea. Maybe China, for some reason, siding with N. Korea.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes
Well then it shouldn't be so far fetched to believe that Israel can take on more than one or two countries (Syria included) and win without military help from the West. They've done it before, they can do it again.

Originally posted by §cimitar
Well then it shouldn't be so far fetched to believe that Israel can take on more than one or two countries (Syria included) and win without military help from the West. They've done it before, they can do it again.

...you think they could win against Syria AND Iran?

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
...you think they could win against Syria AND Iran?
They won one against Syria, Egypt, Jordan and I think Iraq was involved too.

It's highly unlikely they would win.

But the point is to avoid a war all together.

They fought three large armies (Combined, I believe they were in fact larger) and won, with a huge difference in casualty levels. So, I honestly have a bit more faith in Israel than you, or maybe others have.

You forgot Jordan.............and yes they crushed their enemies with a very minimal loss on their side and HUGE losses incurred by their enemeis and fought on 3 fronts! Freakin crazy.

Could they win, its very possible. Do they want to engage in such a large conflict again? Who knows, but if they do this time I VERY much doubt they will give back any territories they should enter into again.

For Israel its about their Air Force..............

Originally posted by Soleran
You forgot Jordan.............and yes they crushed their enemies with a very minimal loss on their side and HUGE losses incurred by their enemeis and fought on 3 fronts! Freakin crazy.

Could they win, its very possible. Do they want to engage in such a large conflict again? Who knows, but if they do this time I VERY much doubt they will give back any territories they should enter into again.

For Israel its about their Air Force..............

I said Jordan in another post above 😛

Originally posted by §cimitar
I said Jordan in another post above 😛

Woops🙂 🤣

It's a good thing Iran isn't supporting the Hezbollah either!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_attacked_ship;_ylt=AgbLI5NWdvtZUopEOB47YIcUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

Originally posted by Soleran
Woops🙂 🤣

It's a good thing Iran isn't supporting the Hezbollah either!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_attacked_ship;_ylt=AgbLI5NWdvtZUopEOB47YIcUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

Link doesn't work for me.

Originally posted by §cimitar
They won one against Syria, Egypt, Jordan and I think Iraq was involved too.

Thats what they would have you believe, they didnt have any help from the west, you think their weapons and all that just came out of nowhere?