Originally posted by PVS
its whobdamandog...this is at least his 15th sock (no, im not exhagerating)just out of curiosity, why are there no liberal sock trolls? ever wonder that?
1. Liberals don't need straw-men for support.
2. Liberals have better things to do than make socks.
To which I say:
1. Conservatives don't need straw-men for support.
2. Conservatives have better things to do than make socks.
3. Whob isn't representative of anything.
the suggestion was not whether or not whob represented anyone or whether the right clinged to him, but rather that it seems every sock troll we encounter (we've had more besides whob, he's just exceptionally depraved) seems to cling to the right.
could it be because the far right...the faaaaaaaaaar right seems to be intolerant of anyone who is not straight, white, christian, and republican....and to the mind of an antisocial sociopathic *******, its sort of a club they can join and experience the thrill of having peers.
i know the left has its own collection of fringe looneys, but it just seems that none of them can find there way here...maybe they're all living on communes with no internet 😬
Originally posted by PVS
the suggestion was not whether or not whob represented anyone or whether the right clinged to him, but rather that it seems every sock troll we encounter (we've had more besides whob, he's just exceptionally depraved) seems to cling to the right.could it be because the far right...the faaaaaaaaaar right seems to be intolerant of anyone who is not straight, white, christian, and republican....and to the mind of an antisocial sociopathic *******, its sort of a club they can join and experience the thrill of having peers.
i know the left has its own collection of fringe looneys, but it just seems that none of them can find there way here...maybe they're all living on communes with no internet 😬
The funny thing seems to be that nearly all of Whobs socks have ended up being caricatures of far, far left supporters. I have lost count of them now how many claim to be atheistic, homosexual, pro infanticide and sexually active before the age of 9 (or all four together.)
But anyway, perhaps it is as the extreme right is far more vocal, and has far more prejudices then the left and far left? The socks, and those legitimate extreme right people often seem to pop up, say something unacceptable to forum rules, get blasted by forum members and then banned before they can "own" the social deviants who chose not to agree with them - thus they try and come back and make their point. Again, and again.
This forum is, generally I feel, more liberally inclined, and in a general sense there is less for a extreme left to complain about then there is for an extreme right - especially those extreme rights with feelings of impotant rage inspired by racism and bigotry.
The reason we see more right-wing trolls--I think--is because left-wing trolls are far more accepted on KMC because it is, as Imperial Samurai said, liberally inclined. On a more conservatively inclined forum, any poster who said something like, "Oh, he's a Christian/conservative, so he hates gays," would be considered a troll.
From what I've seen on KMC, it is much more acceptable to attack something like Christianity/conservative viewpoints--and results in far less poster backlash--than it is to attack something like a non-Christian religion/liberal viewpoints.
Originally posted by FeceMan
The reason we see more right-wing trolls--I think--is because left-wing trolls are far more accepted on KMC because it is, as Imperial Samurai said, liberally inclined. On a more conservatively inclined forum, any poster who said something like, "Oh, he's a Christian/conservative, so he hates gays," would be considered a troll.From what I've seen on KMC, it is much more acceptable to attack something like Christianity/conservative viewpoints--and results in far less poster backlash--than it is to attack something like a non-Christian religion/liberal viewpoints.
That is because Conservatism has been responsible for the oppression of so many people, not to mention the lack of social progress.
Liberalism is responsible for NO such oppression. ❌
Originally posted by docb77
Right, cause liberalism only oppresses anyone who disagrees with them. Free speech! unless of course you're criticizing the left. Freedom of religion!! unless you're christian.The left is just as bigoted as the right. They just have different prejudices is all.
No, we do not oppress them. You can have your religion, You can voice your opinion, just as anyone else. Wait, do You think expressing an opposing view is oppression? Nope, that also falls under Freedom of Speech.
Lets look at a few issues.
Flag Burning:
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Do if You feel like it, idiot (freedom)
Gay Marriage
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Sure, have fun, lead a good life, we love You, we love everyone, we are true Christians cause we do what Jesus preached rather than become fascists (freedom)
Affirmative Action:
Liberals: Yeah, force those corporate bastards (oppression)
Conservatives: Everyone has the right to employ who they want (freedom)
Oh, oops on that last part, my own agenda must have messed that up...HATE BUSH.
Originally posted by docb77
Right, cause liberalism only oppresses anyone who disagrees with them. Free speech! unless of course you're criticizing the left. Freedom of religion!! unless you're christian.The left is just as bigoted as the right. They just have different prejudices is all.
Not sure that is quite right - the iconic liberal, if they can truly say that is what they are, is said to believe in things like equality and such - thus gay rights etc. This is opposed to the iconic conservative that can not always claim to support things like equality. Now the iconic conservative claims they have justification for this, though their arguments generally can be seen by the iconic liberal as failing the litmus test when they resort to bibliscism to make there point, as the Bible generally is not seen as something that is 100% proof. The iconic liberal, I have found, is far more amiable when the iconic conservative utilises facts more then Biblical reference, as religion as no place in the arenas of science or politics.
Of course you could say then that the iconic liberals motivation of equality for all is actually taking away the freedom of the iconic conservative who does not believe in equality for the group in question. However merely not agreeing with a stance is not the same as oppression. Nor does supporting gay marriage somehow assault the life styles of non-gays. Just because an iconic liberal will not agree with with a proverbial conservatives assertion that a gay person should not marry does not equal oppression. Nor is the iconic liberal forcing anything upon the iconic conservative (like saying they can not marry who they want anymore, or that now they can only marry men)
But beyond that I believe you will find that even when a member of KMC who falls into the "liberal" category acts like a proverbial ass, the fact they would be considered liberal does not, in fact, protect them from other "liberal" debaters arguing against them, especially if their stance is one of woeful ignorance.
No, we do not oppress them. You can have your religion, You can voice your opinion, just as anyone else. Wait, do You think expressing an opposing view is oppression? Nope, that also falls under Freedom of Speech.Lets look at a few issues.
Flag Burning:
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Do if You feel like it, idiot (freedom)Gay Marriage
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Sure, have fun, lead a good life, we love You, we love everyone, we are true Christians cause we do what Jesus preached rather than become fascists (freedom)Affirmative Action:
Liberals: Yeah, force those corporate bastards (oppression)
Conservatives: Everyone has the right to employ who they want (freedom)Oh, oops on that last part, my own agenda must have messed that up...HATE BUSH.
Yes, I would tend to agree, merely opposing a vocally stated view does not equal oppression.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, we do not oppress them. You can have your religion, You can voice your opinion, just as anyone else. Wait, do You think expressing an opposing view is oppression? Nope, that also falls under Freedom of Speech.Lets look at a few issues.
Flag Burning:
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Do if You feel like it, idiot (freedom)Gay Marriage
Conservatives: You are not allowed to (oppression)
Liberals: Sure, have fun, lead a good life, we love You, we love everyone, we are true Christians cause we do what Jesus preached rather than become fascists (freedom)Affirmative Action:
Liberals: Yeah, force those corporate bastards (oppression)
Conservatives: Everyone has the right to employ who they want (freedom)Oh, oops on that last part, my own agenda must have messed that up...HATE BUSH.
Bardock you and your zingers, lol...............they make me lol all the time.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
u know it isnt really freedom if it destroys the freedom of others. voicing your oppinion if it tries to go against the right of others cant be called freedom.
Yeah, I agree...it's jsut impossible to go against the rights of others by voicing your opinin. Fun thing this freedom of speech.
for instance i say anyone who kills the child of so n so or makes his life miserable will truly be blessed by god. and seeing as i have a lot of influence people are affected by it and do it. i can simply say "you cant blame me for what other people do, i was just voicing my oppinion and ecxercising my right of free speech" thats stupid you have a right to SPEECH{which is a MEDIA if u think about it} only if you dont go against the RIGHTS of others.