Originally posted by Lightsnake
Big deal. Prove how and when Simus trained Sadow. And sorry, it's SW fact, and confirmed in LOTF that you need to be most organic to be powerful. Y'know, how Vader and Lumiya lost a lot of power?And Ulic's amulet zapped Nomi...Qrrl knows enough about Sith amulets to recognize them when they're used
Ask Nai who trained Sadow. And sorry, the Jedi could know that sith amulets are deadly, not necessarily what they do.
WHEN did Simus train Sadow? Once again: Star Wars fact: Vader lost his limbs and a lot of his power...Simus is a head, losing far more
Once again: Qrrl knows enough about a Sith amulet to spot it by its effects and visual look...why wouldn't the Jedi know what it does? They only warred with the Sith to extinction
OH, because you have evidence of the sith using their blasts on the Jedi during the Hyperspace war? Or the fact that ancient Jedi passed down the knowledge of ancient sith amulets being deadly, COULDNT be logical? All you have is assumptions lightsnake. And again, Simus was powerful as a full bodied sith, he won respect by not succumbing to death, and instead using sith magic to survive as a head.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Again, two things Nai. The simple fact that the sith didn't use their amulets(whether they were ALL deadly or not), was the fact that they obviously had a defense for them. Ok...?
Didn't I already tell you that Yoda did have access to Ancient Sith knowledge ? Don't you think that defence against commonly used tools like Sith amulets would be part of very basic Sith teachings. Obviously Yoda did figure out how to deflect Sith Lightning too.
So explain what Yoda removing the dark side of the amulet would really mean for the blast? I'd like to hear it?
Lmao. If you remove the power from your PC - how does that affect your ability to post here ? If you remove the Dark Side component of an artifact that was created through Sith Alchemy that would technically destroy the artifact or turn it into a useless piece of metal.
And what exactly does Nomi block? I see her falling back, not to mention the amulet released a different kind of energy than the other one.
And again: Please use your two working braincells. The amulet's energy blast was said to be "deadly" and still it did nothing more than put Nomi on her knees. So obviously she didn't die. And I like to see your explanation how two Sith (sister) amulets can generate "different forms of energy". Force power is still force power.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Didn't I already tell you that Yoda did have access to Ancient Sith knowledge ? Don't you think that defence against commonly used tools like Sith amulets would be part of very basic Sith teachings. Obviously Yoda did figure out how to deflect Sith Lightning too.Lmao. If you remove the power from your PC - how does that affect your ability to post here ? If you remove the Dark Side component of an artifact that was created through Sith Alchemy that would technically destroy the artifact or turn it into a useless piece of metal.
And again: Please use your two working braincells. The amulet's energy blast was said to be "deadly" and still it did nothing more than put Nomi on her knees. So obviously she didn't die. And I like to see your explanation how two Sith (sister) amulets can generate "different forms of energy". Force power is still force power.
Two forms of energy? Gee Nai, one was a blast from the amulet, while the other one did what exactly? Look at the scan..
And it's not as simple as "removing the dark side" from an object. Why don't you tell me exactly what that statement on Yoda meant?
And notice that I never argued that Yoda COULDNT block it, I just said it was less likely than not. A quote like "Yoda knows everything, Yoda can take the darkside out of something", doesn't exactly change the fact that Yoda can automatically destroy the amulet.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And again, Simus was powerful as a full bodied sith, he won respect by not succumbing to death, and instead using sith magic to survive as a head.
Stop arguing canon.
You lose midichlorians (and thereby force sensitivity or raw force potential) when you have parts of your body removed. Undeniable fact. There is no way that Simus was as powerful as he was when he had his entire body left...
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Or, as Naga said, it was because of his nobility and wisdom
Oh yea... "I remember when he lost his duel to Marka Ragnos, still he never gave up, never abandoned us".
"Through the use of Sith magic, Simus was able to maintain his life as a talking head".. Right lightsnake..
Originally posted by Borbarad
Stop arguing canon.You lose midichlorians (and thereby force sensitivity or raw force potential) when you have parts of your body removed. Undeniable fact. There is no way that Simus was as powerful as he was when he had his entire body left...
Stop arguing canon? Care to show me where I was arguing Simus being as powerful as he was as a full body? Perhaps you need to read threads before responding. I said Simus is on the council because yes he's respected, and yes they have seem his power.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Use the full quote or not as all: "He was the noblest among us...he always offered his wisdom! He never gave up...never failed us!"Hell, the genuine affection the Sith have for Simus...
You have reading problems? When did I say Simus was as powerful as a head, as his full self?
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Two forms of energy? Gee Nai, one was a blast from the amulet, while the other one did what exactly? Look at the scan..
One was a blast from the amulet and the other was a blast from the amulet. Wow...two different forms of energy. Allright. Next time we learn the difference between a force push and a force push. Lmao.
And it's not as simple as "removing the dark side" from an object. Why don't you tell me exactly what that statement on Yoda meant?
What ? Again: Yoda is able to remove Dark Side energy from nexus points (e.g. objects) meaning he would be able to remove any dark side related energy from Kun's amulets thereby turning them into worthless pieces of metal. What is so hard to understand here ?
And notice that I never argued that Yoda COULDNT block it, I just said it was less likely than not. A quote like "Yoda knows everything, Yoda can take the darkside out of something", doesn't exactly change the fact that Yoda can automatically destroy the amulet.
Excuse me: Your entire argument is based on the idea that Kun's amulet would be the deciding factor. Then you come up with the statement that Yoda might most likely be able to dodge the blasts, possibly able to block them and maybe able to destroy the amulet. So may I ask you how the amulet can be the deciding factor then when youself think that Kun won't be able to use it sucessfully against Yoda ? Logic anybody ?
Excuse me: Your entire argument is based on the idea that Kun's amulet would be the deciding factor. Then you come up with the statement that Yoda might most likely be able to dodge the blasts, possibly able to block them and maybe able to destroy the amulet. So may I ask you how the amulet can be the deciding factor then when youself think that Kun won't be able to use it sucessfully against Yoda ? Logic anybody ? [/B]
Hmm lets see.. Keywords are our friends.. Things like "Yoda could possibly block the amulet blast". That indicates that he might able to or he might not. "Yoda could possibly dodge the blast". That implies that Yoda could possibly dodge it or not. Now when you have 2 saber gods going at it, possibly stalemating or what not, a piece of metal using sith alchemy could be the deciding factor could it not Nai? Logic anybody?
Oh yea, I forgot, both amulets use the exact same blast. Right
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Stop arguing canon? Care to show me where I was arguing Simus being as powerful as he was as a full body? Perhaps you need to read threads before responding. I said Simus is on the council because yes he's respected, and yes they have seem his power.
Logical deduction for beginners:
Anakin lost 60 % of his body and thereby lost 60 % of his former force potential.
Simus lost 95 % of his body so it would be logical to assume that he lost 95 % of his former force potential.
If you want to tell me that he's still as powerful as all the other Council Members then you have to tell me that he was 20 times more powerful than them when having his complete body since they do only have 5 % of his original force potential, correct ?
Hilarious. The entire argument is pretty much ridiculous considering the fact that Simus did show basically no force powers and was killed by a blaster.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Logical deduction for beginners:
Anakin lost 60 % of his body and thereby lost 60 % of his former force potential.Simus lost 95 % of his body so it would be logical to assume that he lost 95 % of his former force potential.
If you want to tell me that he's still as powerful as all the other Council Members then you have to tell me that he was 20 times more powerful than them when having his complete body since they do only have 5 % of his original force potential, correct ?
Hilarious. The entire argument is pretty much ridiculous considering the fact that Simus did show basically no force powers and was killed by a blaster.
The funnier thing is that I never said Simus was powerful as a head, as opposed to him being a full body, so the fact that you can't acknowledge the fact that I never said that, is humorous in itself. So you don't to show me your midichlorian logic as you're stating the obvious. So before you want to start teaching logical deduction, start learning reading comprehension.