Magneto vs. The Flash

Started by sexyking20 pages
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No I just explained that I wasn't saying that and he does win, I was saying to get a better debate to use something to cause balance etc etc etc. Noone is arguing that he loses, just that it destroys a debate...

OK fair enough it destroys a debate but people are only basing it solely on what they know and that is the flash is freaking unbelievably fast and so they state that. And to expect a logical debate in on here when one of the characters has such a high advantage is not plausible.

All in all there is no need for a debate because Flash smokes Magneto.

Originally posted by sexyking
OK fair enough it destroys a debate but people are only basing it solely on what they know and that is the flash is freaking unbelievably fast and so they state that. And to expect a logical debate on here when one of the characters has such a high advantage is not plausible.

All in all there is no need for a debate because Flash smokes Magneto.

Originally posted by sexyking
All in all there is no need for a debate because Flash smokes Magneto.

True so wouldn't this be considered an spite thread then?

Originally posted by sexyking
OK fair enough it destroys a debate but people are only basing it solely on what they know and that is the flash is freaking unbelievably fast and so they state that. And to expect a logical debate in on here when one of the characters has such a high advantage is not plausible.

All in all there is no need for a debate because Flash smokes Magneto.

That's what I'm trying to say...

Although with the knowledge of that it does almost kind of make it spitey lol... which is why I was saying not to make a thread where there was "no need for a debate".

The thread starter could have stated that Magneto starts the battle with his shields up. Then there would have been a large debate.

Originally posted by badabing
The thread starter could have stated that Magneto starts the battle with his shields up. Then there would have been a large debate.
Exactly, all debates focus around one or two points anyways. It's a given that he would win with speedblitz, so make it so it isn't a given.

Mags Bio ...

Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power of magnetokinesis. Magneto can shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere, alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the magnetosphere, increase his own strength, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability (protecting himself or others from almost any psionic, energy, or physical attack), and achieve a wide range of other effects. Magneto has even used his magnetic abilities to extract the Adamantium bonded to Wolverine's skeleton, by manipulating it on a molecular level. With the primal force of nature at his command, Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains and threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed half the globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.

Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating. His ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of magnetic forces. When his powers are not at their peak, he appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism.

The Master of MagnetismMagneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the effects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-men, as well as Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus (during the Secret Wars.) By concentrating Magneto can perceive the world around himself solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings, as well.

Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to the electromagnetic spectrum. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) In both Excalibur (vol. 3) and the possible future of X-Men: The End, Magneto uses his powers to create a traversable wormhole between two points in space. If this is an extension of his primary power, it suggests a connection between electromagnetism, gravitation and spacetime that is beyond current (real-world) scientific understanding.

A mastermind, Magneto is a genius within various scientific fields. He is an expert on genetic manipulation and engineering, with knowledge far beyond that of contemporary science. He can mutate humans in order to give them superhuman powers, instill genetic mind-control, create adult clones of human beings, and then manipulate the genetic structures of these clones during their development. He has designed magnetically-powered skycraft and spacecraft, complex robots and computers, and magnetically-powered generators. He has created artificial living beings, space stations (said to possess technology even Reed Richards would envy), and machines that nullify mutant powers within a radius of several miles.

Magneto is a skilled strategist and hand-to-hand combatant.

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Equipment
Magneto's suit is made of flexible metal bonded on the molecular level, providing protection against projectiles, energy weapons, and concussive force. His helmet, which is constructed out of the same metal as Charles Xavier's Cerebro, allows him to keep telepathic attacks from harming him and also shields his mind from Cerebro.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Read the rules of the Forum.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308157.html

"Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed..."

Also:

"Prep time

Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not...."

TheKahn is the shit, you have earned my respect 😮‍💨

Originally posted by A.J
TheKahn is the shit, you have earned my respect 😮‍💨

😱 Where have you been hiding?

yeah u have been gon forever.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
😕 I think it's more of a field then a shield, I think you may be right about the projectile thing but instead of him holding the particles together like a TK shield I believe he moves electrons in and out of the shield compensating for the force by using charge to get it.(Again I'll have to re-read Fatal Attractions).

But if the Flash does make contact with the field in his dissassembled form what about the Electromagnetic Backlash that Kitty Pryde felt when she tried to move her particles through the concentrated EM Energy?

Kitty Pryde never tried to phase through his shields. And it wasn't a backlash it was an active assault on Magneto's part.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Kitty Pryde never tried to phase through his shields. And it wasn't a backlash it was an active assault on Magneto's part.

She tried to phase through his body which is basically filled with the same energy as his shield.
I remember both of them getting shocked and then Magneto further hurting her by some EM jolt.

She hurt Magneto when she disrupted his natural electromagnetic field akin to how she disrupts electronics. He sent a jolt of energy into her body which hurt her, despite the fact that she can take a nuke at ground zero. It was an active assault at least from what I recall.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She hurt Magneto when she disrupted his natural electromagnetic field akin to how she disrupts electronics. He sent a jolt of energy into her body which hurt her, despite the fact that she can take a nuke at ground zero. It was an active assault at least from what I recall.

Hmm...I'll go check again, but the same thing occured when she attempted to phase through Vulcan. Both of them got shocked(Kitty was worse off).

BTW Didn't he cause her to solidify when he sent a jolt of energy through her body?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Hmm...I'll go check again, but the same thing occured when she attempted to phase through Vulcan. Both of them got shocked(Kitty was worse off).

BTW Didn't he cause her to solidify when he sent a jolt of energy through her body?

That should only happen when she passes through adamantium...

If she did solidify she would have killed him. 🤨

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That should only happen when she passes through adamantium...

If she did solidify she would have killed him. 🤨

Wasn't she running through his computers and he was like "My computers" and she was like " 🙁 " and then he was like " 😠 " and then he did something to her phased body and she was knocked unconscious...I think he forced her to solidify?

Here's the Vulcan scan from his respect thread...I'll have to scan the Magneto one tommorrow since he doesn't have one.(I have to wake up at 7 for driving lessons, I need sleep...)

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmdg06237wh.jpg

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You're still assuming that the energy produced by the Flashes phase won't get nullified before it reaches the shield. If the energy produced from the Dark Phoenix and Galactus couldn't rip apart the particles then the energy produced by the Flash's phase shouldn't. 😕
good point

I like magneto more but there is noway he can win
flash 10/10

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Wasn't she running through his computers and he was like "My computers" and she was like " 🙁 " and then he was like " 😠 " and then he did something to her phased body and she was knocked unconscious...I think he forced her to solidify?

Here's the Vulcan scan from his respect thread...I'll have to scan the Magneto one tommorrow since he doesn't have one.(I have to wake up at 7 for driving lessons, I need sleep...)

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmdg06237wh.jpg

Nyaaeeeiii vs Aahh and his speech bubble is all wonky too.

I don't recall him forcing her to solidify. I remember her being phased into him and him sending a jolt into her while she was phased into him. All this was while she was a novice, and before her intangibility became her natural state.

If she can phase into his electromagnetic energy I don't see why Flash can't.

flash would win this fight if mags don't start in the air first. but anyways flash is a great hero with good powers but he is still very beatable. there is many people in marvel and dc that could beat him. plus the way the witer's show him in comics don't get me wrong he has some really hight feats but alot of the time he acts like a fool. here is a list of people that will kick flash ass

spawn
thor
martian manhunter the guy gets no respect on these forums sad
silver surfer
gl hal or kyle
thanos
superman
and many more