Originally posted by Bashalot
Cap WILL either have his arm ripped off or broken if Spidey rips the shield away from him while he is holding it.
Spidey is just so freakin strong, a factor a lot of people forgets.
That is only happening in your Physics book because in the real world Cap is going wherever the Shield goes if that is the case.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok I get it.1. If Cap beats him it because hes Iconic
2. If street levelers beat him its beacuse Spiderman has a fetish for street levelers
3. Regardless of what the scans show Cap will get his arm ripped off.
In other words we should just agree with everything you say.
Heres the problem Alfheim, you've read and based your opinion on actually comics, but Bashalot has read the... Handbook! How can you possible compete with his superior comic knowledge?
😆
... plus he is just the Judge anyway,
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Cap is fast enough to dodge bullets because he sees faster than regular people so he is fast enough to dodge Pete punches. Get over it.
You can argue what you want, but Spider-Man is still stronger and faster. And skill wise... well, of course Cap is more skilled - duh - but it isn't like it's a huge difference between the two : Spider-Man is one of the most experienced Marvel heroes ever.
A typical CA-Spider-Man fight would be : at first, CA dominates the fight (jobber aura, and the fact that Spider-Man worships CA and always holds back will also help), until Spider-Man gets pissed and goes apeshit on CA, beating CA to death with his own shield, or making him eat some webs.
Spider-Man 8/10.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Heres the problem Alfheim, you've read and based your opinion on actually comics, but Bashalot has read the... [b]Handbook! How can you possible compete with his superior comic knowledge?😆
... plus he is just the Judge anyway, [/B]
LOL. Anyway hes a sock, dont know why im wasting my time....sad.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyYou can argue what you want, but Spider-Man is still stronger and faster. And skill wise... well, of course Cap is more skilled - duh - but it isn't like it's a huge difference between the two : Spider-Man is one of the most experienced Marvel heroes ever.
Yes but in terms of H2H combat there is. You do realise if Cap wasnt holding back he could chop off Spiderman head?
Originally posted by Alfheim
You do realise if Cap wasnt holding back he could chop off Spiderman head?
You can say a lot about Spider-Man, but he never was a sitting duck.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Theoretically maybe.
Maybe my foot.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
But you see, spider-sense,
Which doesnt do a damn thing against Cap or any other street levelers.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
superior reflexes, superior agility
Which arent that much greaters than Caps.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
... it would be difficult for CA to chop off Spider-Mans head.
Well dont see why it would. If he capable of using Spiderman as a punch bag why cant he chop his head off. Even DD has been able to lay into him.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Which doesnt do a damn thing against Cap or any other street levelers.
Which arent that much greaters than Caps.
Even DD has been able to lay into him.
Of course he holds his own - for a while. After that, Spider-Man kicks him around. His only victory is when he fought an outraged Spider-Man who was ignoring his spider-sense.
After that, Spider-Man has kicked around DD quite a few times. And did you never notice that whenever DD fights Spider-Man, Spider-Man is always extremely angry/hypnotized ?
That's to make things more even. DD hasn't a chance against a normal thinking Spider-Man. Even the writers know that.
Originally posted by Arctic
Cap doesnt have that much more skill than Spiderman. He might be a more skilled fighter but spiderman has been fighting for a long time and has delevoped his own style. Sorry, but I just don't see how cap could win it.
Yes he does its been stated by a robot clone of Spiderman and by Spiderman himself.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And so we come back to the so-called "PIS aura" of certain street levelers. The circle is round.
Thats a pile of ****. You dont like something therefore its PIS. Please explain in more detail why its PIS, otherwise you are making a statement without backing it up.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
[B]
Eh, yes they are.
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DD - some consider him as good as CA - always, in every single fight, admits that he's not in the same league as Spider-Man.Of course he holds his own - for a while. After that, Spider-Man kicks him around. His only victory is when he fought an outraged Spider-Man who was ignoring his spider-sense.
After that, Spider-Man has kicked around DD quite a few times. And did you never notice that whenever DD fights Spider-Man, Spider-Man is always extremely angry/hypnotized ?
That's to make things more even. DD hasn't a chance against a normal thinking Spider-Man. Even the writers know that.
A robot clone of Spiderman stated that he could not beat Cap in H2H and Spiderman has said this. Therefore the evidence indicates that Spiderman cant handle Cap in H2H.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Spider-Man is not "just a little bit" faster than Captain America."
Er no hes not.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4171/ca2105qq7.jpg
Wow that looks alot like the pic you posted.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes he does its been stated by a robot clone of Spiderman and by Spiderman himself.
Thats a pile of ****. You dont like something therefore its PIS. Please explain in more detail why its PIS, otherwise you are making a statement without backing it up.
I really don't think CA is as fast as a bullet, or a laser. Or multiple lasers. So why is it that Spider-Man's spider-sense decides to take a nap whenever he faces a (very popular) street leveler ?
To make the fight more interesting, that's why.
You do realize that PIS happens in comics, right ? Writers completely ignoring Spider-Man's spidersense and superior reflexes is a classic example of PIS.
(Mind you, I'm not saying Spider-Man is untouchable, far from it).http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4171/ca2105qq7.jpg
Wow that looks alot like the pic you posted.
But Spider-Man did all that stuff while he was carrying MJ. And it still looked faster - though I admit that may be my interpretation.
Nah, forget it, it was faster 😎
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Well, if a robot clone said it 40 years ago, it must be true lol. And didn't that robot beat the rest of the Avengers ?
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Extremely simple : everybody knows that Spider-Man has a fine working spider-sense. That makes him dodge bullets, lasers, whatever, without breaking a sweat.I really don't think CA is as fast as a bullet, or a laser. Or multiple lasers. So why is it that Spider-Man's spider-sense decides to take a nap whenever he faces a (very popular) street leveler ?
To make the fight more interesting, that's why.
You do realize that PIS happens in comics, right ? Writers completely ignoring Spider-Man's spidersense and superior reflexes is a classic example of PIS.
(Mind you, I'm not saying Spider-Man is untouchable, far from it).
[B]
But Spider-Man did all that stuff while he was carrying MJ. And it still looked faster - though I admit that may be my interpretation.Nah, forget it, it was faster 😎
OWNED!!! 😎
Spideys feat was faster than Caps. But Caps was not that much slower. He was dodgeing bullets the whole time. He can keep up with Spidey. And as far as the Precog Cap can through that off with proper use of his sheild. He throws it and makes ricochet off of a couple walls to where its coming behind Pete while Cap attacks from the other side. <--------------------Cap does stuff like that with ease.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience And as far as the Precog Cap can through that off with proper use of his sheild. He throws it and makes ricochet off of a couple walls to where its coming behind Pete while Cap attacks from the other side. <--------------------Cap does stuff like that with ease.
Another thing: who is best, Captain America with his shield or Spider-Man with his web ?
Question on Spidermans spider sense real quick.
Is it always tingling!?
What im trying to say is, I know it can warn him of initials dangers or dangers of unknown origin.
For example, Doc Oct trys to get the jump on spidey, Spiderman senses it, and Dodges Doc Octs initials attack. Now that Spiderman is aware of the source of the danger (that danger being Doc Oct) would his spider sense still warn him of Doc's every move.
Please Explain.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
DD - some consider him as good as CA - always, in every single fight, admits that he's not in the same league as Spider-Man.Of course he holds his own - for a while. After that, Spider-Man kicks him around. His only victory is when he fought an outraged Spider-Man who was ignoring his spider-sense.
After that, Spider-Man has kicked around DD quite a few times. And did you never notice that whenever DD fights Spider-Man, Spider-Man is always extremely angry/hypnotized ?
That's to make things more even. DD hasn't a chance against a normal thinking Spider-Man. Even the writers know that.
Just to clear some things up, DD doesnt always say hes not in the same league as Spidey. He does however usually say that he cant let Spidey get a good hit on him.
DD has held his own against Spidey in the majority of fights theyve had. There have been only a small number of occasioins where Spidey has "kicked him around". The "only" victory you say DD has is when Spidey was outraged and ignored his spidey sense? FALSE. Thats not DD only victory against Spidey for one. Secondly, although Spidey was enraged, he DID NOT ignore his spidey sense. Daredevil "distracted hit spider-sense". Spidey said "My spider sense can track anything. Wait, its still..".
DD and Spidey have always had pretty even battles for the most part. As 2 heroes fighting, someone has to be mind controlled/angry or hypnotized. If that wasnt the case, 9/10 they wouldnt be fighting. In Spideys first official loss to DD, Spidey wasnt none of the above, but he was actually trying to beat/stop DD. When they both were mind controlled, they knocked each other out. There were even times where Spidey dominated DD while under mind control.
DD does so well against Spidey, because he has the right poweset to match up him.
2 cents.😬
Originally posted by Apolloknight
For example, Doc Oct trys to get the jump on spidey, Spiderman senses it, and Dodges Doc Octs initials attack. Now that Spiderman is aware of the source of the danger (that danger being Doc Oct) would his spider sense still warn him of Doc's every move.
Mind you, the spider sense isn't fail proof. But in most cases, it works just fine.
