cap vs spider-man

i don't know what else to say.except besides you're arguing nonsense due to the fact that cap has human limitations. despite the PIS,CIS,horrible writing,etc........CAPTAIN AMERICA IS HUMAN. he can't be as fast as spiderman. he can't endure anything close to what spidey could dish out.....much less namor and ironman. "rolling his punches" is just a really lame excuse.he can't hurt a character who can be thrown through walls,take hits from from rhino,lizard's tail,venom etc,have buildings dropped on top of him,and get hit by flying cars.he is so vastly outclassed in this fight. it's just common sense.and he definitely couldn't avoid gettting him by spiderman once.......which is all spidey needs to kill him dead.

spider-man 9.9/10

edit:
those amped showings are only a small percentage of cap's continuity anyway. certainly not the norm. certainly not valid. and certainly not usable to argue a sensible point.

Originally posted by namorsubby
if you're saying cap can take 5 tons to the face and is on par or even close to spidey in speed/agility, i guess we're done here.

"I've taken punches from the Hulk"

Originally posted by namorsubby
i don't know what else to say.except besides you're arguing nonsense due to the fact that cap has human limitations. despite the PIS,CIS,horrible writing,etc........CAPTAIN AMERICA IS HUMAN. he [b]can't be as fast as spiderman. he can't endure anything close to what spidey could dish out.....much less namor and ironman. "rolling his punches" is just a really lame excuse.he can't hurt a character who can be thrown through walls,take hits from from rhino,lizard's tail,venom etc,have buildings dropped on top of him,and get hit by flying cars.he is so vastly outclassed in this fight. it's just common sense.and he definitely couldn't avoid gettting him by spiderman once.......which is all spidey needs to kill him dead.

spider-man 9.9/10

edit:
those amped showings are only a small percentage of cap's continuity anyway. certainly not the norm. certainly not valid. and certainly not usable to argue a sensible point. [/B]

Originally posted by King KAM
I understand what you are doing, you are attempting to use logic. But logic doesnt apply to Cap. With all these things Spider-man has over Cap, he doesnt have half the feats, and isnt worthy of lacing up the man's star spangled boots.

Haha this is class. You almost sound like Soljer

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Haha this is class. You almost sound like Soljer

Originally posted by King KAM
is this not true? With Spider-man is not only experienced, but he is caps superior in almost every way, still he is always reduced to comic relief. Nobody in Marvel would choose him over Cap.

Well yeah its just the way you say it. Anyway Spiderman has been reduced to class 10 and is now downgraded in speed as well. Cap has still analysed his style so Cap wins the majority.

Originally posted by King KAM
I understand what you are doing, you are attempting to use logic. But logic doesnt apply to Cap. With all these things Spider-man has over Cap, he doesnt have half the feats, and isnt worthy of lacing up the man's star spangled boots.

and he has more impressive feats just so you know, and many more in quantity.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142705.0.html

Originally posted by namorsubby
oh man😆

and he has more impressive feats just so you know, and many more in quantity.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142705.0.html

Not really, mainly in terms of a strength and durability but his agility and reflexes are not far greater than Caps. Since Caps h2h skills are far greater than Spiderman he wins.

spiderman wins due to long range ability

Originally posted by Battlehammer
spiderman wins due to long range ability

Didn't work with an upgraded Spiderman whys it gonna work now?

Yeh pretty much. I know this thread has gone on for ages and much of the debate centred around which of the two is fastest. For what it's worth based on their feats I would still give spidey the ever so slight nod in speed and reflexes. That coupled with his strength, webbing and balance (if the fight is taken to rooftops etc) would lead me to believe spidey would win in the end. But it would be a very tough fight and spidey would be hurting seriously afterwards.

ps this is regarding Battlehammer's post

cap's human. spider-man's superhuman. his skills can't override the fact that is is simply, not to mention vastly outclassed. it is impossible for anyone with human endurance to survive even one of spidey's 10 ton blows to the head, and if one would dare say spidey could not acheive the goal of hitting cap one time, not to mention deny the fact that humans can't endure that amount of force, then there's really no hope in arguing with them.

Lol. The debate will start up again for sure. 🙂
Cap is an enhanced genetically modified human. He aint just human.
Cap has survived blows by people stronger than Spidey. It may be stupid, but it is on panel.
Spidey has had trouble with peak or near peak human MA's before (Cap is their physical superior).
That being said I still think spidey would win in the end.

Originally posted by namorsubby
cap's human. spider-man's superhuman. his skills can't override the fact that is is simply, not to mention vastly outclassed. it is impossible for anyone with human endurance to survive even one of spidey's 10 ton blows to the head, and if one would dare say spidey could not acheive the goal of hitting cap [b]one time, not to mention deny the fact that humans can't endure that amount of force, then there's really no hope in arguing with them. [/B]

Caps peak human and if you look at his feats there not really any different than other superhuman street levelers. Hes not a glorified Olympic athelete the guy can run about 60 mph and can see bullets. 😬

Originally posted by namorsubby
cap's human. spider-man's superhuman. his skills can't override the fact that is is simply, not to mention vastly outclassed. it is impossible for anyone with human endurance to survive even one of spidey's 10 ton blows to the head, and if one would dare say spidey could not acheive the goal of hitting cap [b]one time, not to mention deny the fact that humans can't endure that amount of force, then there's really no hope in arguing with them. [/B]

do i have anything to base this on? 😆

human beings cannot survive force of that magnitude, period.

Originally posted by namorsubby
do i have anything to base this on? 😆

[b]human beings cannot survive force of that magnitude, period. [/B]

Originally posted by namorsubby
do i have anything to base this on? 😆

[b]human beings cannot survive force of that magnitude, period. [/B]

Hes peak human....hes borderline superhuman ( I think peak human = low superhuman) and has survived superhuman damage. Hell Punisher has enhanced durability and hes doesnt even have SSS.

oh, so cap's superhuman then, right?

superhuman enough to take ten tons to the face and keep on moving? not so.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes peak human....hes borderline superhuman and has survived superhuman damage. Hell Punisher has enhanced durability and hes doesnt even have SSS.