cap vs spider-man

Started by Metalmanx134 pages
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah of course...him <<<pulling>>> it has nothing to do with it?

No, no. The strength is definitely a factor. The main one even. But, the factor RIGHT underneath strength is endurance. I'm sure that I could pull truck at least a couple of inches before I became exhausted. Cap, however, won't become exhausted. So he can just keep on pulling.

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Originally posted by Sparkz
Its probbaly just comes down to Caps stamina not his strength.

Perhaps. But I just re-looked at the scan, and I noticed a forgotten piece of information about that: the axle of the supply truck broke. Now, how drastic this was, I dunno. However, I used to work at an auto shop. One of the contracts we had was some Crown Vic's with a security company. Once, we had a crown vic that had a broken rear axle. You COULDN'T move the back wheels. You know how we had to get that thing on a two post lift? With someone inside the car to steer, and a forklift lifting the back tires off the ground. Anyways, I don't know how drastic the damage to the supply truck in the scan was, but if it was anything similar, then Cap had to deal with DRAGGING a supply truck, not pulling. Through sand.

That is beyond human capabilities.

But that doesn't matter in this thread, it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand...so I don't know why I'm even arguing about it -_-.

EDIT: And I very much doubt you could push even a passenger car a couple inches, if it had a badly broken axle, MetalMan....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly.

Plus, I mean, he's Cap. He HAD to do it to save people. Determination like his can easily aid him in a feat like this.

Oh i see...so now its his Stamina and determination, well obvoulsy thats a factor. Ok was he using his muscles?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh i see...so now its his Stamina and determination, well obvoulsy thats a factor. Ok was he using his muscles?

Read my next post after that one. Or just look up. 😉

Soljer the point im trying to make is that Captain America is superhuman, anyway you have mentioned this already. Anyway that clinches it that feat is between 1 to 5 ton range.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Soljer the point im trying to make is that Captain America is superhuman, anyway you have mentioned this already. Anyway that clinches it that feat is between 1 to 5 ton range.

Err...where was it clenched? I think I missed the clenching.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No, no. The strength is definitely a factor. The main one even. But, the factor RIGHT underneath strength is endurance. I'm sure that I could pull truck at least a couple of inches before I became exhausted. Cap, however, won't become exhausted. So he can just keep on pulling.

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So basically if strength is the main factor what are we arguing about...um why would he keep pulling...could this be because he has superhuman strength? Oh and the axle was broken..so there.

Metalmanx the axle of the supply truck was broken therefore he cannot take advantage of using the wheels to help him pull the supply truck.

Originally posted by Alfheim
..so there.

Damn. Good point. You got me there.

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Even if Cap WAS...let's say...a three-tonner, his strength would still be INCREDIBLY outclassed. Proving that he has superhuman strength of that kind of level does NOTHING for the argument at hand. Therefore, it is pointless to do so. I think I could present a VERY well defined, and well grounded argument for Cap being a class 2 or 3 character. However, it doesn't matter for this thread.

Debate intelligently, Alfheim. Save arguing Cap's strength for a thread that it will actually MATTER in.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So basically if strength is the main factor what are we arguing about...um why would he keep pulling...could this be because he has superhuman strength? Oh and the axle was broken..so there.

No the point was that Strong humans can pull it but they become tired quickly, Cap won't become tired so he could carry on pulling...of course the broken axle bit kinda gets rid of that theory.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Sparkz your not funny.

Oh come on it was a little funny.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Metalmanx the axle of the supply truck was broken therefore he cannot take advantage of using the wheels to help him pull the supply truck.

Even like Soljer said, it's unsure as to the state of the damage. The wheels MAY or MAY NOT be able to move. And even still, there are two more wheels that he can take advantage of.

Originally posted by Soljer
Even if Cap WAS...let's say...a three-tonner, his strength would still be INCREDIBLY outclassed. Proving that he has superhuman strength of that kind of level does NOTHING for the argument at hand. Therefore, it is pointless to do so. I think I could present a VERY well defined, and well grounded argument for Cap being a class 2 or 3 character. However, it doesn't matter for this thread.

Debate intelligently, Alfheim. Save arguing Cap's strength for a thread that it will actually MATTER in.

It does help because strength also enhances Caps speed.

Can we get a scan of this truck thing? It'd be easier if we all could read it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Even if Cap WAS...let's say...a three-tonner, his strength would still be INCREDIBLY outclassed. Proving that he has superhuman strength of that kind of level does NOTHING for the argument at hand. Therefore, it is pointless to do so. I think I could present a VERY well defined, and well grounded argument for Cap being a class 2 or 3 character. However, it doesn't matter for this thread.

Debate intelligently, Alfheim. Save arguing Cap's strength for a thread that it will actually MATTER in.

Ok then nevermind.

Certainly: http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericadmr2of3032no.jpg

Originally posted by Sparkz
Oh come on it was a little funny.

Yeah it was a bit....

Originally posted by Soljer
Certainly: http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericadmr2of3032no.jpg

Ah I see the truck is smaller than i thought so even with a broken axel it definatly seems in Caps strength range to move.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Ah I see the truck is smaller than i thought so even with a broken axel it definatly seems in Caps strength range to move.

Possibly but that thing will be PACKED with food, so that will be alot of extra weight....plus the distance.

I said I wasnt gonna argue...