cap vs spider-man

Started by Scoobless134 pages

I just read ASM #534 (barely 5 minutes ago) .... dumb fight... very dumb

Spidey has been taking punches from guys like Tombstone for years and bouncing right back... now he has a metal mesh bulletproof suit.... and cap punching him in the side/back seems to hurt more than a tail smash from the Lizard?

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Dumb!

Originally posted by Scoobless
I just read ASM #534 (barely 5 minutes ago) .... dumb fight... very dumb

Spidey has been taking punches from guys like Tombstone for years and bouncing right back... now he has a metal mesh bulletproof suit.... and cap punching him in the side/back seems to hurt more than a tail smash from the Lizard?

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Dumb!

A tail smash covers much more surface area, thus, less pressure, thus, less pain.

Also, I highly doubt that the Lizard very often makes use of precise nerve center strikes when he whips his tail at peter.

The hulk has shown pain to nerve strikes. Hell, the JUGGERNAUT has shown to be suceptible to nerve strikes. Why not Pete?

Because of the bullet proof metal fibre mesh suit coupled with his own enhanced durability

Originally posted by Scoobless
Because of the bullet proof metal fibre mesh suit coupled with his own enhanced durability

So, a suit and spider-durability is superior to that of the Hulk's? Excuse me?

Wow cap's jobber aura refuses to let him die without a fight. Go cap! die arachnid die!

Originally posted by Soljer
A tail smash covers much more surface area, thus, less pressure, thus, less pain.

Also, I highly doubt that the Lizard very often makes use of precise nerve center strikes when he whips his tail at peter.

The hulk has shown pain to nerve strikes. Hell, the JUGGERNAUT has shown to be suceptible to nerve strikes. Why not Pete?

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Don't get me wrong, I understand that nerve strikes can cause a lot of damage, but I don't agree with your comparison. Especially considering Spider-Man's durability and massive amount of damage/pain he's taken over the years.

Lizard tail smash > Cap nerve strike.
Basically any of Rhino's attacks>>Cap nerve strike.
Anything Morlun did to Spidey >>> Cap nerve strike.

You're comparing a pin-prick to a wrecking ball. And the wrecking ball is moving even faster.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Don't get me wrong, I understand that nerve strikes can cause a lot of damage, but I don't agree with your comparison. Especially considering Spider-Man's durability and massive amount of damage/pain he's taken over the years.

Lizard tail smash > Cap nerve strike.
Basically any of Rhino's attacks>>Cap nerve strike.
Anything Morlun did to Spidey >>> Cap nerve strike.

You're comparing a pin-prick to a wrecking ball. And the wrecking ball is moving even faster.

Cap has beaten bullet proof guys all the time, why should spidey be any different, he beat a bullet proof Bantam, and knocked him out, he KOed a bullet proof US agent, and has also beaten the Scorpion, hes dropped hulk with a kick before, and has hurt Namor, im pretty sure Spider-Man felt the wrath too, because not only does cap hit like a Ton-o-bricks but he hits exactly where it counts.

Originally posted by King KAM
Cap has beaten bullet proof guys all the time, why should spidey be any different, he beat a bullet proof Bantam, and knocked him out, he KOed a bullet proof US agent, and has also beaten the Scorpion, hes dropped hulk with a kick before, and has hurt Namor, im pretty sure Spider-Man felt the wrath too, because not only does cap hit like a Ton-o-bricks but he hits exactly where it counts.

I never said he didn't. I believe you're misunderstanding my point. I was countering Soljer's argument is all. I never took anything away from Cap. I know he can dish out pain/damage. But comparing his nerve strikes to things like the Lizard's tail smash is just absurd.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I never said he didn't. I believe you're misunderstanding my point. I was countering Soljer's argument is all. I never took anything away from Cap. I know he can dish out pain/damage. But comparing his nerve strikes to things like the Lizard's tail smash is just absurd.
well how absurd???I am not saying you are wrong simply its like apples an oranges, nerves strikes have zero to do with power, and lizards tail strike does.And yes cap hits harder than tombstone.

Originally posted by rotiart
Wow cap's jobber aura refuses to let him die without a fight. Go cap! die arachnid die!
lmao

Originally posted by King KAM
well how absurd???I am not saying you are wrong simply its like apples an oranges, nerves strikes have zero to do with power, and lizards tail strike does.And yes cap hits harder than tombstone.

Not post-accident Tombstone. He's stronger than Spidey.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Not post-accident Tombstone. He's stronger than Spidey.
Cap hits like a class 20 character, like i said. EVERYONE cap punches feels it.

Originally posted by King KAM
Cap hits like a class 20 character, like i said. EVERYONE cap punches feels it.
Pretty much just like Batman. He rocks people that should be out of his league too. Whereas most Street Levels would hurt their hand or bounce off.

Originally posted by King KAM
Cap hits like a class 20 character, like i said. EVERYONE cap punches feels it.

There's a word for that.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
There's a word for that.
yeah....uknow its funny, that no matter how many times cap does it its Hyperbole...but a feat is a feat, then he whails on Spidey TWICE in a course of 2 days, that tells me that everyone should reconsider how strong cap is.

Originally posted by King KAM
yeah....uknow its funny, that no matter how many times cap does it its Hyperbole...but a feat is a feat, then he whails on Spidey TWICE in a course of 2 days, that tells me that everyone should reconsider how strong cap is.
I've felt the same way about Bats on the forum for a long time. If a character shows he can consistantly mash out another character, why ISN'T it believable?

Then at the same time, i see the other views...

I dunno.

Originally posted by King KAM
yeah....uknow its funny, that no matter how many times cap does it its Hyperbole...but a feat is a feat, then he whails on Spidey TWICE in a course of 2 days, that tells me that everyone should reconsider how strong cap is.

It's a feat. There's no denying that. I would agree that it would be better for Marvel to just make Captain superhuman. But as long as he isn't, all of his major feats should be ignored in hypothetical battles.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
It's a feat. There's no denying that. I would agree that it would be better for Marvel to just make Captain superhuman. But as long as he isn't, all of his major feats should be ignored in hypothetical battles.
he is super-human. Just because his bio doesnt say it dont mean it aint true, and your a fool, FEATS should never be ignored.

Originally posted by King KAM
Cap hits like a class 20 character, like i said. EVERYONE cap punches feels it.

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Cap hits hard. Harder than most. I'd put him in the top three non-super street levelers.

Hard as a class 20 character? No.

Originally posted by King KAM
he is super-human. Just because his bio doesnt say it dont mean it aint true, and your a fool, FEATS should never be ignored.

Feats should be ignored if they are PIS. You can't go by the feats of characters who are said to be merely human and act accordingly most of the time, yet sometimes perform vastly superhuman feats for the sake of the plot or just coolness. These fights are supposed to be realistic and based on their inherent abilities. Some people believe that Captain dodging bullets on a daily base is inherent to his character, but how can that be? He's human! I'm sure not even peak humans can see bullets coming.