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Hm...damn. You know, you could both be right in a sense. We only have this one showing to go by. One more would be nice, just to properly and accurately gauge this showing. Know what I mean?
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Hm...damn. You know, you could both be right in a sense. We only have this one showing to go by. One more would be nice, just to properly and accurately gauge this showing. Know what I mean?
Originally posted by marvelprince
Actually I think that was artistic misinterpretation on that one cause later on its shows Peter catching him and realizing he must have been under the effect of the stone. Also if you look closely you can see the "stingers" aren't even the same colour as the costume
true they arent the same colour but they are metalic looking and they have appeared bone like before.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img447.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rule2jx.jpgHm...damn. You know, you could both be right in a sense. We only have this one showing to go by. One more would be nice, just to properly and accurately gauge this showing. Know what I mean?
yeah but Pete does have 4 showings using his stingers before and they were under his wrists and bone like, so I'll go with the majority. And this showing to me just does seem like its part of the suit.
Originally posted by marvelprince
But the other ones were from Amazing and Friendly IIRC. Plus it actually fits into the story as all the other animal themed characters were losing it and we see how angry he's getting in that pic
Yeah true he's getting angry but that dosn't mean he can't form "stingers" with his suit.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I think that they come out auto in the presence of certain magic (As they didn't around doc strange) but he may be able to learn to control them, and in the fight with stergon he was so angry he was using the suit as a weapon as he didn't know how to unsheath his stingers.
The magic thing can be explained away. It was the rock. It was amped up Stegron so who's to say it didn't do the same for Peter and it fit so well with the story and whats happening to the other characters. Plus his dialogue also seems to match what I said, saying spiders are the strongest. If he wanted to or even accidently use the suit then why not manifest themselves as spider-legs or something?
Originally posted by marvelprince
The magic thing can be explained away. It was the rock. It was amped up Stegron so who's to say it didn't do the same for Peter and it fit so well with the story and whats happening to the other characters. Plus his dialogue also seems to match what I said, saying spiders are the strongest. If he wanted to or even accidently use the suit then why not manifest themselves as spider-legs or something?
Also note how he didn't appear to be freaked out and/or surprised in the slightest by their sudden appearance. This would lead one to assume that he purposely activated them.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Also note how he didn't appear to be freaked out and/or surprised in the slightest by their sudden appearance. This would lead one to assume that he purposely activated them.
Bingo
EDIT: Now I'm pretty sure those are stingers in the pic but I feel that him releasing them was more from being under the influence of the rock than anything. He hasn't got full mastery of them as of yet (and since they kinda creep him out it doesn't seem like he'll experiment much with them)
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Also note how he didn't appear to be freaked out and/or surprised in the slightest by their sudden appearance. This would lead one to assume that he purposely activated them.
Yes but he would be less suprise if he commanded the suit to do it cause he knew he told the suit to do it.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Do I even need to point out the faulty logic there? The truth has WHEELS. Yes, I know it's heavy. But it's still got WHEELS. If you get any sort of momentmum going, it's MUCH easier to sustain it.And wait a second. You said that DOES NOT prove that Spider-Man can lift more than 15 tons? Did you not see how much rubble and whatnot were on top of Spider-Man? He's lifted a damn TRAINS STATION off of his back! Are you just trying to not see it for what it is?
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Can you even imagine the strength required of Spider-Man to perform such a feat? More than 25 tons, that's for damn sure.
Well at any rate it doesnt matter. Spiderman can still get killed by bullets. Cap has owned beings that are bulletproof and explosive proof, Cap is capable of taking Spiderman with one shot, obvoulsy Spiderman is not stnding still but he is more than capable of hitting Spiderman.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Cap could do any of these? Honestly?
This is why when you come out with stuff like "I like Captain America." I cant take you seriously. Any self respecting Capfan knows that Cap can do that stuff. Like I said lazers zero gravity, end of discussion really.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Since always? Both Venom and Carnage are faster than Spider-Man. And his spider-sense is negated by them, too. So it's all just reflexes and speed to avoid them. Brawlers or not, they're faster than Spidey.
I want a second opinion.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Eh, it makes sense to me. You're stronger than a piece of wood, no? And yet, if the wood is strong enough, it would hurt your hand to punch it/through it. Same logic applies here. Spider-Man has superhuman durability.
That doesnt seem to make any sense at all. If a piece of wood is stronger than ypou of course its going to hurt your hand. Scorpion is supposed to be stronger than Spiderman so he should not be able to do so.
At any rate Cap has hurt and knocked out people more durable than Spiderman, it dont mean a damn thing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Fine by me. Why don't you just wrie Marvel and see if they'll listen.What is though, seriously? You don't agree with Spider-Man using stingers because it would be yet another advantage against Cap?
Im not sure if Spiderman can always use his stingers, as far as I know this is something that he has had on and off.
Since MM isn't in yet I'll field this one.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well at any rate it doesnt matter. Spiderman can still get killed by bullets. Cap has owned beings that are bulletproof and explosive proof, Cap is capable of taking Spiderman with one shot, obvoulsy Spiderman is not stnding still but he is more than capable of hitting Spiderman.
What does bulletproof have to do with anything. Cap has more trouble with beings withour powers than anything. Sure he can land a few blows on Spider-Man, but Peter can land way more and much stronger blows and since Cap's durabilty < Peter's durabilty Cap is going down.
Originally posted by Alfheim
This is why when you come out with stuff like "I like Captain America." I cant take you seriously. Any self respecting Capfan knows that Cap can do that stuff. Like I said lazers zero gravity, end of discussion really.
If you don't see the ridiculousness in that statement all hope is lost
Originally posted by Alfheim
I want a second opinion.
Spider-Man wins. There
Originally posted by Alfheim
That doesnt seem to make any sense at all. If a piece of wood is stronger than ypou of course its going to hurt your hand. Scorpion is supposed to be stronger than Spiderman so he should not be able to do so.
You can break a piece of wood. Won't you still hurt your hand if you do?
Originally posted by Alfheim
At any rate Cap has hurt and knocked out people more durable than Spiderman, it dont mean a damn thing.
And Spider-Man has hurt and knocked out people waaaaaay more durable than Cap. Point?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not sure if Spiderman can always use his stingers, as far as I know this is something that he has had on and off.
Eh, it comes and goes. I'm not even factoring them in this fight and I say Spider-Man still takes a healthy majority
Originally posted by marvelprince
Since MM isn't in yet I'll field this one.What does bulletproof have to do with anything.
Its not obvious? Spiderman is not bulletproof, doesnt this mean that somebody who his bulletproof is more durable than Spiderman.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Cap has more trouble with beings withour powers than anything.
They would probably be MAs.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Sure he can land a few blows on Spider-Man, but Peter can land way more and much stronger blows and since Cap's durabilty < Peter's durabilty Cap is going down.
Yes but if you look at Spidermans durability there is nothing to say that Cap cant KO him with one shot.
Originally posted by marvelprince
If you don't see the ridiculousness in that statement all hope is lost
No not at all. If you explain to me why SS travels faster than the speed of light and doesnt time travel then you can make that statement. There you go applying real world physics to comic books when they are not even the same.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Spider-Man wins. There
Forgot what I asked.
Originally posted by marvelprince
You can break a piece of wood. Won't you still hurt your hand if you do?
Yeah fair enough, dont change nothing.
Originally posted by marvelprince
And Spider-Man has hurt and knocked out people waaaaaay more durable than Cap. Point?
They both have the capability to take each other down with one good shot.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Eh, it comes and goes. I'm not even factoring them in this fight and I say Spider-Man still takes a healthy majority
Its not standard equipment then is it.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So can WW. You think he can take her?
As far as I know WW is superior to Spiderman in alot of her attributes, so im not really going to answer that question.
cap cannot ko spidey with a single shot, imo. even were spidey standing still and cap given a free shot. cap may be able to DISABLE spidey with a shot, but it would be a nerve blow or something along those lines and i think it would be tough if spidey was going full-out to tag him with one. i'm sure there have been loads of scans showing some of the enormous shots he has taken that have NOT ko'd him -- much greater shots than cap could ever dish out.
and of course ww would crush spidey -- and it would not take very long . . . 😬
