cap vs spider-man

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I've been told? What does that mean?

Ok sorry that was a bit rude...sorry I just cant help winding you up abit.

Originally posted by Metalmanx

Doesn't mean it's true.

Yeah it is.

Originally posted by Metalmanx

Cap's shield has been webbed up before.

Yeah the shield had to be webbed to something else. The shield itself was not webbed up. If you look at the scans again the webbing is attached to a wall covering the shield

Originally posted by Metalmanx

And his webs don't need to be as fast as bullets when they can cover a MUCH wider area.

That doesnt matter Cap can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Even if Spiderman does throw it over a larger area Cap acan use his agility and his shield to evade the webbing.....but thats if he has his shield....but its still possible depending on how close Cap is to him to antacipate it even without his shield.

Cap goes down hard in a serious fight. Cap has been beaten by way less than Spider-Man. There are examples of Spider-Man having a hard time against other street levelers, but those are examples of him not taking them seriously and goofing off. Lets not forget Spider-Man has punked both Daredevil and Punisher on occasion when he's not looking to fight and both of those guys give Cap trouble (Daredevil has actually beaten Cap before).

The Spider-Man issue was cute, but it was obviously slanted in that Spider-Man not only was facing his personal thoughts about which side he's on, he had to fight his hero who's on the other side of the fence. A real fight with not holding any of the characters back won't be the same

Originally posted by marvelprince
Cap goes down hard in a serious fight. Cap has been beaten by way less than Spider-Man.

Spiderman has been beaten by less than Cap.

Originally posted by marvelprince

You bring up nice examples of Spider-Man having a hard time against other street levelers, but again those are examples of him not taking them seriously and goofing off.

Well i dont know which ones you're talking about but we know he does not use strength to his full ability, but we do know that he uses his agility and spider sense.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Lets not forget Spider-Man has punked both Daredevil and Punisher on occasion when he's not looking to fight and both of those guys give Cap trouble (Daredevil has actually beaten Cap before)

I think DD beat Cap 100 years ago, doesn't really count as evidence on its own. More recently Cap gave DD a heavy beatdown in streets of poison.

Bah, Cap will win. He beat him in issue 187(I think its that one) of ASM and almost beat him a few issues ago.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Spiderman has been beaten by less than Cap.

Yes, but those are scripted. Anything can happen with the right kind of plot material. Whether it's PIS or not doesn't matter.

Anyway, I could spin this and say that Spidey has beaten far more powerful guys than Captain.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yes, but those are scripted. Anything can happen with the right kind of plot material. Whether it's PIS or not doesn't matter.

Anyway, I could spin this and say that Spidey has beaten far more powerful guys than Captain.

Yeah I know, so points like that dont mean a damn thing. Anyway I still think Cap loses 9/10 to Iron Spidey 😆 ....maybe

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok sorry that was a bit rude...sorry I just cant help winding you up abit.

Yeah it is.

Yeah the shield had to be webbed to something else. The shield itself was not webbed up. If you look at the scans again the webbing is attached to a wall covering the shield

That doesnt matter Cap can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Even if Spiderman does throw it over a larger area Cap acan use his agility and his shield to evade the webbing.....but thats if he has his shield....but its still possible depending on how close Cap is to him to antacipate it even without his shield.

http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ve7.jpg

http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Deadpool/Building/Building_08.jpg

Cap's dodging that? Severely doubtful. 😬

And then there's what he can do with said webbing...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ve7.jpg

http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Deadpool/Building/Building_08.jpg

Cap's dodging that? Severely doubtful. 😬

And then there's what he can do with said webbing...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145

That's...wow.

I already had a good deal of respect for spiderman, but that's some amazing use of webbing. I never really visited the spiderman respect thread, and I think it's about time I do.

Damn, that's impressive.

This has been played over and over again in many comic book vs forums. Having watched the Ultimate Avengers Movies, I have garnered a new amount of respect for the Captain.

I give the Captain 5 out of 10, Spideman the other 5. And yes, I know that the Ultimates version of Captain is stronger than Earth 616 version however, he's just as good of a fighter.

Originally posted by Validus
Cap 10/10

Every one always goes on about this BS about Spidey being able to take Batman or Captain A. When it comes to fighting theyre the best in both worlds (DC and Marvel). Spiderman may have many Advantages over both of them but that hasnt stopped Bats or Cap from defeating more powerful opponents before. Becuz theyre both unmatched in hand to hand combat that is the reason they defeat greater opponents than their self. Cap takes this one.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Agreed.

Every one always goes on about this BS about Spidey being able to take Batman or Captain A. When it comes to fighting theyre the best in both worlds (DC and Marvel). Spiderman may have many Advantages over both of them but that hasnt stopped Bats or Cap from defeating more powerful opponents before. Becuz theyre both unmatched in hand to hand combat that is the reason they defeat greater opponents than their self. Cap takes this one.

I think I just died a little inside.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
This has been played over and over again in many comic book vs forums. Having watched the Ultimate Avengers Movies, I have garnered a new amount of respect for the Captain.

I give the Captain 5 out of 10, Spideman the other 5. And yes, I know that the Ultimates version of Captain is stronger than Earth 616 version however, he's just as good of a fighter.

616 is actually superior, 😉.

Pressure points bash

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ve7.jpg

http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom37xc.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideyvsnewvenom49ce.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Deadpool/Building/Building_08.jpg

Cap's dodging that? Severely doubtful. 😬

And then there's what he can do with said webbing...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6432145

So if Cap can dodge lasers in zero gravity and has a shield which webbing cant stick to and is a master strategist are you telling me he cant find a way of dodging even a huge amount of webbing?

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9219/beatingspidermanstraightup41yx.jpg

The above links show what would happen if Spiderman tried to do that to Cap with his shield. Note that the webbing was shaped in such a way that it was going to envelop Taskmaster.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So if Cap can dodge lasers in zero gravity and has a shield which webbing cant stick to and is a master strategist are you telling me he cant find a way of dodging even a huge amount of webbing?

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9219/beatingspidermanstraightup41yx.jpg

The above links show what would happen if Spiderman tried to do that to Cap with his shield. Note that the webbing was shaped in such a way that it was going to envelop Taskmaster.

Yes. That's what I'm telling you. All of his training couldn't help him in the situation if Spidey really decided to unload webbing on Cap. I'm not biased, it's just the truth. You've seen the proof, evidence of his abilities.

And yes, if Spidey had REALLY wanted to, he could've easilye enveloped Taskmaster. However, he was still not that experienced, especially with someone of TM's calibur.

By the way, where is the proof that webs don't stick to the shield? I'm not calling you a liar, I'd just like to see it.

ello

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes. That's what I'm telling you. All of his training couldn't help him in the situation if Spidey really decided to unload webbing on Cap. I'm not biased, it's just the truth. You've seen the proof, evidence of his abilities.

What proof? Is his webbing as fast as a laser or a bullet? Cable can dodge bullets in mid flight and has said that Cap is faster than him. So are you telling me if he has his shield that he cant find a way of using it so he cant get stuck of course he can.

Originally posted by Metalmanx

And yes, if Spidey had REALLY wanted to, he could've easilye enveloped Taskmaster. However, he was still not that experienced, especially with someone of TM's calibur.

Ok now you're just making stuff up. It was quite awhile ago but he had still been Spiderman for a long time.

Originally posted by Metalmanx

By the way, where is the proof that webs don't stick to the shield? I'm not calling you a liar, I'd just like to see it.

Sorry think you will have to ask Jinzin for that I may pm him. Jinzin is a very good debator and probably knows what hes talking about, but sorry no dont have anything sold on me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
What proof? Is his webbing as fast as a laser or a bullet? Cable can dodge bullets in mid flight and has said that Cap is faster than him. So are you telling me if he has his shield that he cant find a way of using it so he cant get stuck of course he can.

Ok now you're just making stuff up. It was quite awhile ago but he had still been Spiderman for a long time.

Sorry think you will have to ask Jinzin for that I may pm him. Jinzin is a very good debator and probably knows what hes talking about, but sorry no dont have anything sold on me.

It's a bit different when the bullet you're dodging can be the size of a basketball court coming at you. 😐

Who's making anything up? I'm serious about what I said. Peter was relatively inexperienced at the time. We know, however, that if he wanted to, he could've easily enveloped TM in webbing. (Besides, he did have a sword while Cap has a shield--bit of a difference).

And yes. Jinzin is a very good debator. Never denied that. But now I'm a bit worried. Have you actually seen this proof, or just relied on what Jin said? I mean, sometimes that's not such a bad thing, but I think whether or not Cap's shield can be webbed (I still don't see how the hell it would be immune to webbing 🤨 ). Because I would hope you're not just blinding sticking to this information without any evidence to back you up here.

hello

writing like this REALLY p*sses me off.

Cap is a normal human, ffs.

he couldn't hit spidey, not even once.

jesus, DC don't pull crap like this. you don't see batman beating on superboy just for plotlines. (yes, WITHOUT prep, before you all start bleating)

hand to hand cap wouldn't stand any kind of chance at all. and you all know it really. he throws punches at normal speed. yes, he's a great fighter, in fact arguably the best in the marvel universe, but muhammad ali couldn't beat 3 guys with baseball bats - and thats the equivalent of cap beating spidey.

jesus. sort your heads out guys (and that includes whoever is responsible for that bag of crap marvel storyline).