cap vs spider-man

Originally posted by H. S. 6
I don't know how well Spidey needs to know how to use it when all he did was smack Cap upside the head with it. With Peter's strength, I think it'd be pretty easy to slice through Cap, if the shield is capable of the things you say it is. 😉

EDIT: And as much as I'd like to continue this debate, I'm off to bed. Goodnight, everyone. 😛

http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca25045hl.jpg
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaiii25p342tk.jpg
note: he tosses his shield faster than a rocket's escape velocity.
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav327p097zm.jpg
also in reply to your bulletproof theory, this guy shruggs off bullets.. he DOES NOT shrugg of cap lol.

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica203105cq.jpg

and I don't think that using the shield to cut through something has much to do with strength than is does technique... namor has taken that shield and beamed hank pym in the head with it.. it just ricocheted off.... like i said idiot proof.. most things manufactured by the military are.

Originally posted by Arahan
Man you really dont like Spiderman (jinzin) ❌

The sheild has been shown to easily chop of body parts.

If Cap can trick Spidey and get one good hit with his sheild, the match is over 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
note: he tosses his shield faster than a rocket's escape velocity.
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav327p097zm.jpg

Look the thing you got to understand about cap is that eventhough people say that he is peak human hes not, he is superhuman.

I mean lets take Hawkeye for example how many times have you seen him shoot guns and weapons out of multiple attackers. They will tell you that Hawkeye has no powers but to do what he does you need superhuman skill.

In the marvel universe extremely talented and peak human is just another word for superhuman.

To be quite honest if you have examples in the marval universe of Cap giving spidey a good fight I dont know why you guys are still arguing. It seems some people just cant take it.

Originally posted by jinzin
"AND HAS PRECOG"

exactly.... he has precog which allows him to dodge lasers..

lazers and bullets can't use his precog against him.. good fighters however can.. and have...

See, this right here makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Precog. He knows an attack is coming before it comes. He knows what it will be and where it will POTENTIALLY land so he can avoid it in time.

Other, far slower opponents using his precog against him? What the hell? Does Spidey only predict one move every Thirty seconds now? 🤨

His Spider-Sense would allow him to know each and every attack thrown his way before it occurs, thus knowing the set-up attack and then the real attack. Whatever Cap ties to set up, Spidey will already know what it is.

Cap may have planned 2 steps ahead of Spidey, but Spidey has read said plans ahead of time.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
And what, while Spidey sits back and lets Cap hit him?

Okay, so let's say we do get in close. What is Cap going to do, exactly, assuming he'll be able to keep up with him? Punch him? But wait, the armor is bullet-proof. I suppose that's not going to work. Throw his shield at him? We all know what happens then.

Please tell me how Cap's going to "get the upper hand" before Spidey either A) lays him out, or B) webs him down.

Spidey really should be able to stand there and take punches to the face from Cap all day long.

I'm reminded of when much-younger Spider-Man FLICKED Walrus-Man (or whatever his name was) in the face and knocked him out. And, as lame as he was, Walrus-Man did have a degree of superhuman strength and durability.

Now imagine a full-out, non-held back punch.

Why is Spidey's super strength not applicable to Cap?

By the way, I know you're arguing Spider-Man, but I just felt compelled to ask this anyway. 😉

Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, so now 'bullet proof' means totally impervious? Go tell that to Kevlar.

And what is he going to do in close? How about...dodge spiderman's first punch, follow up with a body shot, slap his shield across spidey's face, and then hit him with a right hook. In ten seconds. Like he did in the scans I showed.

Hey, what happened after that? I mean, what happened after the end of those scans? The fight couldn't have just stopped. What was the outcome?

Originally posted by jinzin
well if we're talking about the shield.. if cap threw that at spiderman without holding back and it connected.. shock

that sheild has gone through an admantium coated ultron construct... it would go through spiderman just as well.

That, I cannot agree with.

Yea, it's gone through some durable things before. But against a person is completely different. Especially a person with superhuman durability.

Out of all the times that Cap has thrown his shield all out, when has it gone through his (non-robot) opponent? 😕

It would hit Spidey really hard, yes. I never doubt that. But it would just carry him a bit with its momentum, not go through him. 🙄

Let's stop kidding ourselves here. Cap is a skilled fighter, but:

a fighting style developed around supernatural abilities >>>> human skills. Every day of the week. Can we please ignore the jobber/PIS/CIS aura's?

Even better, Spidey himself has enough experience to make his abilities count in battle. More than enough.

Who is faster?
Spider-Man
Who is stronger?
Spider-Man
Who is more agile?
Spider-Man
Who is more durable?
Spider-Man
Who heals faster?
Spider-Man
Who has better reflexes?
Spider-Man
Who is precognitive?
Spider-Man
Who is more intelligent?
Spider-Man
Who has a long range attack that can immobilise their opponent?
Spider-Man
Who has a fighting style based on super-strength, -speed, -reflexes, -agility and precognition?
Spider-Man

Who would win the vast majority?
Spider-Man

Why is this up for debate? I know jinzin hates Spider-Man so of course he'll argue for Cap but how can anyone seriously think Cap has what it takes. Everything Cap can do Spidey can do at least 10x better. Spider-Man trumps him in every physical category 'cept for stamina, and with Spider-Man's strength and speed thats a non-factor. Look how easily he handled Cap in CW3 if you want any indication of how the fight would go

Originally posted by marvelprince
Why is this up for debate? I know jinzin hates Spider-Man so of course he'll argue for Cap but how can anyone seriously think Cap has what it takes. Everything Cap can do Spidey can do at least 10x better. Spider-Man trumps him in every physical category 'cept for stamina, and with Spider-Man's strength and speed thats a non-factor. Look how easily he handled Cap in CW3 if you want any indication of how the fight would go

Yeah but Cap hit Spidey so people seem to think Cap was winning, which I don't understand but whatever.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Spider-Man 9.99/10. There's probably a 1/1000 chance that Spider-Man has a spontaneous seizure.

Didn't Spidey just kind of defeat Cap in Civil War? I mean, grabbed his shield from the air and all.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Didn't Spidey just kind of defeat Cap in Civil War? I mean, grabbed his shield from the air and all.

Yeah but because Cap got the last punch then Iron man flew Cap into a wall people think cap had the upperhand...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Yeah but because Cap got the last punch then Iron man flew Cap into a wall people think cap had the upperhand...

I honestly can't believe that people are arguing that he could take that much force here in the forum.

How does he do it? Easy, its a comic book. They aren't going to show a character like Cap lose in one punch.

Originally posted by jinzin
it IS capible of these things.. look:

http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca25045hl.jpg
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericaiii25p342tk.jpg
note: he tosses his shield faster than a rocket's escape velocity.
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav327p097zm.jpg
also in reply to your bulletproof theory, this guy shruggs off bullets.. he DOES NOT shrugg of cap lol.

http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica203105cq.jpg

and I don't think that using the shield to cut through something has much to do with strength than is does technique... namor has taken that shield and beamed hank pym in the head with it.. it just ricocheted off.... like i said idiot proof.. most things manufactured by the military are.

So let's suppose that what you say is true. Put simply, Cap's shield is a very, very strong weapon.

What's stopping Spider-Man from grabbing it out of the air, and using it against Cap? Surely, even if it doesn't "slice" through him, it's going to leave a damn big bruise, and more realistically, drop him. After all, the shield's gone through Ultron; hurting Cap isn't out of its abilities, no?

And don't say Spidey would get hit by it. I can maybe give you a couple punches when he and Cap are in close, but by the time Cap releases that shield, Spidey has already dodged the next couple attacks. 😉