Here's something I gotta ask. You know when Jack is sitting in his cabin and he has a map in front of him. The compass points somewhere and he looks at the map and is like "NO!" then got up to get the rum.. was it pointing to port Royal there on the map?
.thats where Liz' current location was when he was looking at it I think. But I didnt get a close look to where the compass was pointing on the map.
Anyone know?
Originally posted by LovelyOne
LOL also Beckett seems to see it too, when she gets overly defensive after he mentions that its Jack she's looking for. 😂 she's like "NO WILL NOT JACK!"and yeh blackpearl..it will be the classic fade out and fade in to naked under covers kinda thing 😂 if its disney..
Yeah the classics.... 🙂 love it.
I dont know though. How could they work that in? I dont think they will. They have crossed lines, but i think that is almost cliche. I can see them doing something else wierd- like having them get intimate in another way---- more island sleepover conversations--- etc.... i dont know. as long as they get to stare into each other's eyes, have a kiss or two, and sail away together, i will be fine....
Maybe they will have an argument..and then..LOL
Look at this pic is it me or does Liz's/Will's body language here show us that she's kinda pulling away but is being held into a kiss that she might not "really" want? also it kinda shows that Will is in control of her..its HIM kissing her and not the other way around.
where as with Jack she was all for it and in control
symbolizes what each man is going to mean for her later..Will= Restriction..control
Jack: lets her be in control. Freedom.
You know what I love about that "Persuade Me" scene?
Jack looks at the Letters from Beckett and says scornfully, "As if I could be bought for such a low price".... but takes them anyway!! hahahaha I dont' know why but that's just such a crack-up to me. Such a Jack Sparrow moment.....
HMM i just realized something else. Jack asks Liz how she got the letters and she says it was "Persuasion", indicating that she pretty much coerced or used force to get them out of Beckett. Jack comments that "Will strikes a deal with these and upholds it with honour, yet you're standing here with the prize"-- suggesting that she is becoming piratey and using "unfriendly persuasion" to get what she wants while Will is still the boring, honourable Will. And then Jack starts tempting her to continue using even more morally questionable methods of "persuasion" to get what she wants out of him, saying "Persuade Me" HMMMMMM. When you really think about it, this film is just laden with subtext for Lizzie becoming a full-fledged pirate bride for Jack. hahaha 🏴☠️
LOL i know^^ and katelovespirate did you mean LIZ slept with him? 😂 and yeh it was a twang of jealousy...
The way she looks when Jack mentions that about her having the letters in a dishonest way whilst Will set off with honor is so funny, she's like "well I never!"
and its so true..Will goes and does the honorable thing ALWAYS.
and it's really funny how he takes them anyway..😂
something else makes me laugh about that after she says to jack "yes beckett did mention something about a chest" jack turns and looks at her right in the face..she sort of flinches 😂
That whole "Will told you I know how to handle a sword?" then the "like I said....PERSUADE ME" thats SOOOO hot! and the way she ..doesn't know what to do or how to respond and just storms off makes me crack up.😂
then smiles bless her 😄
You mean this scene.
Persuade Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibs1ox65DrQ
hahaha SO TRUE. oh geee- and you remember, Anikin only did that in order to save Padme. Will only did it to save Lizzie. But who knows if that will continue????
I think one of the reasons some people still have a hard time seeing the Liz/Jack paring is becuase the evidence for them is all really subtle and confusing (playful banter, metaphors, compasses, attraction, etc) while the evidence for her and Will is pretty obvious (they are engaged). But i dont think the fact that the evidence for Liz and Jack is subtle should make it less important...
Please, Ted and Terry, give us more of this kind of delicious dialogue!
Don't let us down.. I'm really looking forward to the scene when Liz and Jack meet again in the 3rd movie. AWKWARD.
Elizabeth: hello, remember me, I'm the one who sent you to to your violent and premature death-- but not before I tricked you with the hottest kiss of your life. Do you think you can forgive me?
Jack: Persuade Me.
Originally posted by katelovespirate
hahaha SO TRUE. oh geee- and you remember, Anikin only did that in order to save Padme. Will only did it to save Lizzie. But who knows if that will continue????I think one of the reasons some people still have a hard time seeing the Liz/Jack paring is becuase the evidence for them is all really subtle and confusing (playful banter, metaphors, compasses, attraction, etc) while the evidence for her and Will is pretty obvious (they are engaged). But i dont think the fact that the evidence for Liz and Jack is subtle should make it less important...
Yes thats so true. It's usually the things that are below face value that are the most important to a story. Otherwise they wouldnt be there for you to try and figure out.
and yes thats really kinda similar to the davy/Will thing. Davy is working for the empire where beckett (the emperor) is pulling the strings of Davy(darth vadar)? and he might be able to persuade Will to cut his heart out like him at the Loss of Elizabeth and his own father. I can picture it now "learn to forget everything that is important to you become like ME!" 😂
INTRIGUING... I can SO see Davy saying that. And Davy's already bitter about his gal so he'll really understand Will and sympathize with him so as to get him to his side. Wow, if Disney decides to go with this kinda storyline, it will be a lot darker than most ppl are anticipating. I can definitely see Will changing alliances though, disillusioned by his broken love affair. I read somwhere that the Pirates 3 was going to have most of the protagonists mistrustful of each other, almost every allegiance divided as they fight (each other?)
Originally posted by vegaofthelyre
Please, Ted and Terry, give us more of this kind of delicious dialogue!
Don't let us down.. I'm really looking forward to the scene when Liz and Jack meet again in the 3rd movie. AWKWARD.Elizabeth: hello, remember me, I'm the one who sent you to to your violent and premature death-- but not before I tricked you with the hottest kiss of your life. Do you think you can forgive me?
Jack: Persuade Me.
THAT is probably my FAVORITE post ever made in this forum. i am speechless with delight. gave me the laugh of my life. I LOVE IT beyond anything ever, wow. hehehehe. Can I use as my sig? thanks. 🙂
Yeh it would be a dark move.. 🙂 Will seems to think that whats' good isn't always as good as it seems..he's way too....trusing with people.
ohh that sounds interesting^^
I just read this on wikipedia:
"Traits
While atypical for a pirate, Sparrow is also known for his altruistic nature; he often puts himself in harm's way to save other people, most notably Will and Elizabeth. The first film's script suggests Jack's kindness is part of the reason why his crew mutinied—when Jack offers a nonviolent way to find a piece of the cursed Aztec gold on the Navy ship Interceptor, Barbossa claims, "Now, y'see Jack, that's exactly the attitude that lost you the Pearl. People are easier to search when they're dead." (This may also have been a way to keep the mutineers from encountering Will, whose lineage Sparrow wanted to keep secret for "leverage" purposes.) Sparrow is presented as an honorable (if self-centered) man who believes in the "Pirate's Code" and that there is such a thing as a "good" pirate (was his evaluation of Bill Turner).
Jack believes himself to be a ladies' man, explaining that he has an "intuitive sense of the female creature"; however, he is seemingly unable to commit to a long-term relationship. Jack is presented as adept at sweeping ladies off their feet, but once (women seem to have a sour memory of Sparrow, slapping him or anyone looking for him).
Sparrow's most commonly-used words and phrases include "savvy?" (as in, "do you understand me?"😉 and "bugger," while his best remembered quote is, "why is the rum gone?!"
Jack apparently suffers from extremely bad breath. He caused Norrington to take a step back when he got a little close, and made Governor Swann gag at the end of the first film. (On the DVD commentary, Gore Verbinski quoted his breath resembling, "the inside of a donkey's ass."😉 When he attempted to romantically approach Elizabeth during Dead Man's Chest, she noted various things that made them different people, including "personal hygiene".
According to the audio commentary featuring the scriptwriters on the DVD for the first Pirates film, while Jack's swordplay is formidable in its own right, Sparrow is the least talented in comparison with Turner, Barbossa and Norrington, relying on his wits more than his swordplay to get himself out of tough situations."
Find it very interesting he puts people before himself most times 😂
there's loads more here (thanks to Sccch for posting the link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sparrow
OHH OHH it also says Jack's most beloved object is his hat!! my liz/hat theory comes into play yet again!