Marka Ragnos versus Shimrra

Started by Darth Pwnage15 pages

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I know Lightsnake dislikes the ancients which is why I pointed it out. Nothing personal against him, everyone here has disdain for something.
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Originally posted by Lightsnake
If Marka can bring in his scepter and amulets, why is Shimrra not allowed a yammosk? And technically his brain is part Yammosk thank to Onimi.

Marka's scepter releases stored up force energy...I've never seen it proven that it's a 'blast of raw energy' rather than force power which wouldn't affect Shimrra...and HOW is Marka gonna stop a plasma eel?

And Sexy, just shut up. STILL waiting for a source that says Marka died of old age. And wow, Pwnage, your arguments really suck. all you posted is relevant, how? Considering, according to KJA and Tom Veitch, Kun and Palp>The Ancients and Yoda>The Ancients and Exar, and according to the Dark side sourcebook and NEC, Palpatine>The Ancients, too...Oh, and Ragnos, AFTER getting a boost from his scepter was beaten by Jaden Korr, some Sith Lord....bnack up your bullshit, idiot: Where was it said there were no challengers? Where was it said he was uncontested? Oooh, an empire full of weaklings ruled by someone with base power, wow!

Hm, what's this telling you?

If you look on page 1, its in the default settings that Ragnos has his sceptor. Im still waiting for evidence that a Yammosk is capable of dispelling illusions.

How would Shimmra be unaffected by a surge of raw energy heading straight at his chest? Thats just ridiculous. Do you think the energy will just magically disappear when it gets close to Shimmra?

I already said how Ragnos would stop a plasma eel, he would use the enviroment... mounds of rock and dirt etc. etc.

Its pretty damn obvious that Ragnos died of old age, or else some disease. If he died in combat, then there would of been a new DLOTS.

Are you refering to that worthless email again? TV telling us what he *thinks* Lucas' *intentions* are is no proof of anything. He makes no definite statements. And since when does Sidious or Yoda have anything to do with this fight?

Its pretty damn obvious that Ragnos died of old age, or else some disease. If he died in combat, then there would of been a new DLOTS.

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Then why don't you go read the NJO and Guide to alien species?

Because the raw energy is force oriented, same as Nom Anor having force lightning arc away from him.

And how is a 'mound of dirt' gonna stop a plasma eel? It'll still explode with the same force.

Really now? I'm STILL waiting for proof Ragnos wasn't killed in an accident or assassinated...there's nothing proving he died of natural causes.

Oh, and Tom says in an email prior to that Yoda is definitely on top. And in another email, KJA puts Kun and Palpatine above Sidious. Oh, and maybe if you paid attention to the dispute, He confirms that when he put Yoda on top, he meant in regards to force power and the like.

And that's my disproving 'The Ancients Own all' theory

Lightsnake, stop arguing with a negative. "Prove me Ragnos WASNT killed or assassinated". Sorry, the only thing that is said about him is him dying of old age, otherwise it would have been specified.

When exactly was it said he died of old age? This is a simple question and would require a single source to answer

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Then why don't you go read the NJO and Guide to alien species?

Because the raw energy is force oriented, same as Nom Anor having force lightning arc away from him.

And how is a 'mound of dirt' gonna stop a plasma eel? It'll still explode with the same force.

Really now? I'm STILL waiting for proof Ragnos wasn't killed in an accident or assassinated...there's nothing proving he died of natural causes.

Oh, and Tom says in an email prior to that Yoda is definitely on top. And in another email, KJA puts Kun and Palpatine above Sidious. Oh, and maybe if you paid attention to the dispute, He confirms that when he put Yoda on top, he meant in regards to force power and the like.

And that's my disproving 'The Ancients Own all' theory

Its not my responsibility to provide proof for *your* claims. Bring us a direct quote that states a Yammosk could dispel sith illusions.

The sceptor is powered by sith magic. It is just raw energy....or are you telling me that Vong are immune to energy weapons as well?

By putting mounds of dirt as a barrier, the plasma eel wont reach its target.

Like DS already said, if there was another cause for his death than it would of been specified.

Bring us the email where TV makes definite statements.

Originally posted by Darth Pwnage
Lightsnake HATES THE ANCIENTS becuase he can't deal with the fact that someone that troubled Luke would be pwned by the ancients.Although LS doesn't always make shit up it is clearly obviuos he has something against ancients and can't acknowledge that when someone bows before and obeys commands from a ghost when they themselves are incredulously powerful says volumes about how powerful the dead person was when they were alive.Add to the fact that he held power in the ancient sith empire for over a century(Palpatine held power for just a little more than a quarter of that time) and brought it to its golden age and only had major resistance early in his reign(from powerful beings/armies)speaks about his ironfist.Palps was brought down by... ❌
Ragnos died of old-age(if someone was conspiring against him THEY would have been DLOTS)only Yoda accomplished that.Ragnos was incredible,he was over a century old no challengers, on his deathbed no challengers...
So Vengeance what about this

They see through illusions, PERIOD. Why would sith magic make a difference?

Ok, so Ragnos'll know what a plasma eel is, does and be able to think of and do this before it reaches him and explodes in his face...how?

Why would another cause have been specified? Did Darth Millenial die of old age then? Or Cognus?

Oh, gee...I DID post the email where TV gives definite statements. See? "When you said.... Did you mean etc etc etc."
Him: Yes.
he gives his reasoning after.

lightsnake just stop.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
lightsnake just stop.
NOW 😠

No, Td.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
When exactly was it said he died of old age? This is a simple question and would require a single source to answer

It stated that he ruled ironfisted for a century and remained unchallenged

So his death was by natural means.

Where'd it state he was unchallenged?

And death in an accident is always a possibility. There's nothing that justifies this 'he was unchallenged on his deathbed' stuff

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Where'd it state he was unchallenged?

And death in an accident is always a possibility. There's nothing that justifies this 'he was unchallenged on his deathbed' stuff

LS is going to be giljotiini

You're an idiot lightsnake, you offer the dumbest theories just because you hate the ancient sith. He was unchallenged, he ruled with an iron fist, the two most powerful sith lords didn't dare challenge him even as he was a ghost, you lose.

Sadow: Takes more than a ghost to make me forget my enemy!

Sadow: What is so important you couldn't let us solve it?!

How does one 'challenge' a ghost per se?

Prove he was unchallenged...really this should be such a simple concept

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You're an idiot lightsnake, you offer the dumbest theories just because you hate the ancient sith. He was unchallenged, he ruled with an iron fist, the two most powerful sith lords didn't dare challenge him even as he was a ghost, you lose.
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LS is going to be pwned pretty soon

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Sadow: Takes more than a ghost to make me forget my enemy!

Sadow: What is so important you couldn't let us solve it?!

How does one 'challenge' a ghost per se?

Prove he was unchallenged...really this should be such a simple concept

Lets see he ruled with an iron fist, the Golden Age died when he died, both Sadow and Kressh bowed down to him as a ghost, there is nothing that states otherwise, etc..

So, is Millenial a Sith God, too?