Mace and Depa vs. Exar and Ulic

Started by Deus Venèficus11 pages

Originally posted by Advent
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*anticipation*

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"After a furious battle..."

He didn't waste Vodo.

Nice observation. It should also be taken into account that Kun was only able to win because he was able to cut through Vodo's staff, in other words his winning was due to Vodo's inferior staff not being able to handle the strength that Kun was able to put into his finishing blow. This is not a testament to his dueling ability but just goes to show that Vodo's staff could not withstand a blow from a saber going at the speed and power that Kun was able to generate.

For the last time Nebaris get it through your thick skull. The STAFF WAS STATED TO BE MORE POWERFUL THAN A LIGHTSABER. Therefore this is a testament to Kun's strength and dueling abilities. And the scans are clear. Kun was talking with Vodo and mocking him and when Vodo said no, he tooled him, simple.

Before I reply, can you please explain in what way is it more powerful than a lightsaber, and provide proof?

read TSW.

I have read TSW. I would just like to hear your explanation first, so as to give the best rebuttal.

What explanation do you want? Actually I believe its in the 1st issue of DLOTS, before or during his first fight with Kun..

For instance, how do you interpret the statement? Cutting power?

No, the fact that it could withstand a lightsaber blast. The fact that Kun broke it is a testament of his power, not a fault of the stick.

That statement was clearly wrong - the narrator was indirectly voicing Vodo, Vodo was wrong. The statement simply can't be right (at least if you interpret it in this way) because Kun was able to generate enough strength to slice through Vodo's staff, ergo the staff is not fully able to withstand a lightsaber, and thus in an inferior weapon.

As I have already said, it is a testament to Kun's strength but virtually a moot point in terms of dueling in a situation such as this because all duelists wield the saber, which Kun won't just be able to slice through.

the statement was wrong? You're arguing with the narrator? Please.. Don't even bother.

The narrator was indirectly voicing Vodo, I'm arguing with Vodo, not the narrator - he was wrong and payed the ultimate price for his false belief.

No, the Narrator stated what he stated, not Vodo.. Don't argue with the narrator.

I know you said that Vodo's stick is the only reason Kun won. I'll call bullshit if you don't mind, Vodo went there with the intent to stop Exar Kun. And we know he's capable of disarming his opponents (his duel against Exar, he put him on his ass twice), and can find his opponents balance points due to his "skill of long experience", so the fact is - if he could have stopped Exar Kun, he would have. Since he didn't, he cannot do it in either a duel or with the Force.

This just goes to show that Vodo cannot outduel Exar Kun, while I'd support the fact Kun can outduel Vodo. Given when he was only a padawan, he gave Vodo trouble once he got two blades. Now, he's a master lightsaber duelist, and is better than Ulic - who I'd easily argue could best Vodo in sheer lightsaber to stick combat.

Anyways, if you'll notice even before cleaves Vodo in half, Vodo admits defeat. So, obviously he could not beat Exar either way. Exar is a superior duelist, and a superior Force user. Simple as that.

Oh, and a "furious battle" means exactly jack shit, AOTC novel describes Anakin and Dooku's battle similarly - so I guess Dooku didn't "waste" Anakin? Please. Exar was toying with Vodo the entire time - given he doesn't reveal his double bladed lightsaber until he's positive Vodo won't turn, and the fact the man is taunting Vodo the entire fight.

And Nebaris, where was the fight described as "epic"? More bullshit?

lol..

'I know you said that Vodo's stick is the only reason Kun won.'

ORL? You must have missed the part where I stated that it was a testament to Kun's strength...

'I'll call bullshit if you don't mind, Vodo went there with the intent to stop Exar Kun. And we know he's capable of disarming his opponents (his duel against Exar, he put him on his ass twice), and can find his opponents balance points due to his "skill of long experience", so the fact is - if he could have stopped Exar Kun, he would have. Since he didn't, he cannot do it in either a duel or with the Force.'

Mostly irrelevant, and was I even arguing that Vodo would be able to defeat Kun? I was just pointing out that Kun had many unfair advantages on his side in defeating Vodo, many which wouldn't apply to this kind of fight.

yes, like being the superior duelist, superior force user, and possessing superior strength.

'And Nebaris, where was the fight described as "epic"? More bullshit?'

I can't remember..

Originally posted by Sith'ari
'And Nebaris, where was the fight described as "epic"? More bullshit?'

I can't remember..

You can't remember because it was never stated. It's a pretty simple concept really. The books' summaries don't say it, the actual comic doesn't say it either, the NEC doesn't say it. Nothing does.

So you're either delusional, a liar, or you're thinking of a different battle (probably Revan vs. Malak).