Flash vs Hulk

Started by Alfheim53 pages
Originally posted by Da Pittman
I look at where he is pointing the barrel and start to punch as I see him begin to pull the trigger, what is so hard for you to see this? Hulk knows that Sentry is coming straight at him because they are in a tunnel created by the impact so Sentry has no were else to go.

He know theres nowhere to go, but how the hell does he know when Sentry as actually going to come for him? Dont be an idiot.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh012.jpg

Sentry is almost near him and he still hasnt raised his hands. Until here!

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh013.jpg

That basically is a kin to hitting a bullet just before it hits you

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like really? Puck and I mean classic Puck was jumping around Hulk like he was a toddler. Yet here Hulk is going to catch Flash?....WOW!

Dindt have any problems stomping hyperion and hes reactions have been stated as around nanoseconds. Hulk has different showings.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He stated that he was not holding back and hence we can assume then when he flew at him he was flying him at top speed.

cutting loose = does not equal charging someone not at full speed.

No I dont Sentrys top speed is arguably near lightspeed or lightspeed this was a more powerful version of Sentry and he was cutting lose. The circumstance indicates the speed.

Uh uh im actually not really for the argument that when Sentry and WWH were punching at each other it was lightspeed movement but specifically when he flew at WWH. Im undecided about the brawl at this moment.

You keep assuming that “Not Holding Back” means that he is fighting at top speed AND full strength. Bruce Lee could punch 6 times within 1 second, you think that he could put all his force into each one of these blows?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Dindt have any problems stomping hyperion and hes reactions have been stated as around nanoseconds. Hulk has different showings.

Right and Hyperion was going lightspeed or near lightspeed in their fights? Hulk has more showings that indicate he CAN'T match Flash then one's he does.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He stated that he was not holding back and hence we can assume then when he flew at him he was flying him at top speed.

cutting loose = does not equal charging someone not at full speed.

No I dont Sentrys top speed is arguably near lightspeed or lightspeed this was a more powerful version of Sentry and he was cutting lose. The circumstance indicates the speed.

Uh uh im actually not really for the argument that when Sentry and WWH were punching at each other it was lightspeed movement but specifically when he flew at WWH. Im undecided about the brawl at this moment.

Even the circumstantial evidence is flimsy. "Not holding back" can mean just strength, or just speed, or turning someone into a mushroom. Sentry wasn't pulling his punches with regard to his strength capabilities, that doesn't mean he's going to fly at lightspeed in Earth atmosphere or "not holding back" his light control or telepathic abilities.

If I punch at the air on a sunny day I hit photons. Go me.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right and Hyperion was going lightspeed or near lightspeed in their fights? Hulk has more showings that indicate he CAN'T match Flash then one's he does.
If indeed he has any of the latter at all, which is as yet unproven.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He know theres nowhere to go, but how the hell does he know when Sentry as actually going to come for him? Dont be an idiot.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh012.jpg

Sentry is almost near him and he still hasnt raised his hands. Until here!

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh013.jpg

And this equates to Hulk having reaction speeds =/> Flash-esque ground speeds, how? 😕

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You keep assuming that “Not Holding Back” means that he is fighting at top speed AND full strength. Bruce Lee could punch 6 times within 1 second, you think that he could put all his force into each one of these blows?

There is no speedometer on the panel but because of what he said and the circumstance I can assume there is a reasonable possibility he was going at top speed, thats it.

Hulk can hit Flash.

Makes sense to me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He know theres nowhere to go, but how the hell does he know when Sentry as actually going to come for him? Dont be an idiot.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh012.jpg

Sentry is almost near him and he still hasnt raised his hands. Until here!

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh013.jpg

That basically is a kin to hitting a bullet just before it hits you

Dindt have any problems stomping hyperion and hes reactions have been stated as around nanoseconds. Hulk has different showings.

Again you show you lack of knowledge in fighting, if you lack skill in your technique you show tells of what you are going to do before you do it with muscle twitches, eye position and body movement. Any good fighter knows these things about their opponent, like they drop their left hand before a left hook and so on. Sentry is not a top tier fighter sacrificing power over skill so his tells would be very obvious to a skilled fighter.

Also again you are trying to give a time frame between comic panels; you are assuming that between the two there is no time which again is a false assumption.

Originally posted by Galan007
And this equates to Hulk having reaction speeds =/> Flash-esque ground speeds, how? 😕
Well you see. Hulk can put his relatively large fist in the way of the only route available for Sentry to attack him, and Sentry can fly at an undetermined speed in a tunnel facefirst into it since it's the only route of attack and he's a tard. Therefore Hulk has lightspeed reactions. It's elementary, my dear Galan.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Even the circumstantial evidence is flimsy. "Not holding back" can mean just strength, or just speed, or turning someone into a mushroom. Sentry wasn't pulling his punches with regard to his strength capabilities, that doesn't mean he's going to fly at lightspeed in Earth atmosphere or "not holding back" his light control or telepathic abilities.

Well if you make the statement that your not holding back and you charge somebody what is the most likely conclusion?

A. Your going to slow down

OR

B. Your going to charge somebody at full speed.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right and Hyperion was going lightspeed or near lightspeed in their fights? Hulk has more showings that indicate he CAN'T match Flash then one's he does.

Im not denying that but if your going to use the argument that he cant hit such and such and can give the example of fast characters that he can hit.

Originally posted by Galan007
And this equates to Hulk having reaction speeds =/> Flash-esque ground speeds, how? 😕

Im not saying that Hulk wins im saying Hulk can get some hit in. IMO opinion Sentry has shown lightspeed flight and since he stated he was not holding back I think he wuld have flown at him at full speed.

That is different from Flash going around in circles but I think if he can hit a target moving at lightspeed he may be able to get some shots in, especially since I dont think Flash will take him down straight away.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Again you show you lack of knowledge in fighting, if you lack skill in your technique you show tells of what you are going to do before you do it with muscle twitches, eye position and body movement. Any good fighter knows these things about their opponent, like they drop their left hand before a left hook and so on. Sentry is not a top tier fighter sacrificing power over skill so his tells would be very obvious to a skilled fighter.

Also again you are trying to give a time frame between comic panels; you are assuming that between the two there is no time which again is a false assumption.

What on earth are you talking about Sentry is a PROJECTILE. Hes not a man pulling a trigger or an MA......a PROJECTILE.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If I punch at the air on a sunny day I hit photons. Go me.
I LOL'ed 😆

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well you see. Hulk can put his relatively large fist in the way of the only route available for Sentry to attack him, and Sentry can fly at an undetermined speed in a tunnel facefirst into it since it's the only route of attack and he's a tard. Therefore Hulk has lightspeed reactions. It's elementary, my dear Galan.
Ahhh,
I see it now. doh

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not denying that but if your going to use the argument that he cant hit such and such and can give the example of fast characters that he can hit.

Your using examples of people slower then Flash in combat fights, as traveling speed and combat speed are two different things. Flash is all about combat speed, which your examples don't even come close to matching 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Your using examples of people slower then Flash in combat fights, as traveling speed and combat speed are two different things. Flash is all about combat speed, which your examples don't even come close to matching 😬

As I stated Sentry IMO opinion would have been flying at lightspeed. If hulk can hit that there is a chance that Hulk can hit him, because Hulk I dont think will be taken down straight away.

Also Hyperion has been shown to have reactions in nanoseconds basciaclly he has Supermanesque type reflexes.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ahhh,
I see it now. doh

Originally posted by Alfheim

Im not saying that Hulk wins im saying Hulk can get some hit in. IMO opinion Sentry has shown lightspeed flight and since he stated he was not holding back I think he wuld have flown at him at full speed.

That is different from Flash going around in circles but I think if he can hit a target moving at lightspeed he may be able to get some shots in, especially since I dont think Flash will take him down straight away.

Originally posted by Alfheim
As I stated Sentry IMO opinion would have been flying at lightspeed. If hulk can hit that there is a chance that Hulk can hit him, because Hulk I dont think will be taken down straight away.

Also Hyperion has been shown to have reactions in nanoseconds basciaclly he has Supermanesque type reflexes.

What evidence do you have to back up your opinion Sentry was going lightspeed?

Which doesn't mean much as Flash's reflexes are better, and if you look at Hyperion's fights he never shows uber reflexes...ever.

Originally posted by Alfheim
As I stated Sentry IMO opinion would have been flying at lightspeed. If hulk can hit that there is a chance that Hulk can hit him, because Hulk I dont think will be taken down straight away.

Also Hyperion has been shown to have reactions in nanoseconds basciaclly he has Supermanesque type reflexes.

You sir are a fool.

Sentry wasn't close to using full speed or even half or quarter speed in the Sentry/Hulk fight. If you think so then you really are retarded.

Let’s assume by some power of the Reality Gem that Alfheim is correct and Hulk can reach near light speed. This would be the top level performance from the Hulk, which he has already said that Flash would have a hard time keeping up his top level performance. Hulk has no experience dealing with combat fighting at those levels, Flash does this while he gets ready in the morning ever day making his breakfast. Who do you think is going to have the advantage of not getting hit? Flash can run through a mob of people at light speed and not touch a single person, you think a fist the size of a Mac truck is going to land on him?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What evidence do you have to back up your opinion Sentry was going lightspeed?

He fly to the sun and back and how it was presented imùplied that it was a very short time IMO lightspeed or close. This Sentry was more powerful and stated he was not holding back. The situation implies that he would have charged him at top speed.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Which doesn't mean much as Flash's reflexes are better, and if you look at Hyperion's fights he never shows uber reflexes...ever.

Well theres this, not only that he was fighting Gladiator and he was using his superspeed in that fight and you know how fast Glads can be.

http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg

and theres also the fact that Thing said he was fast for him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What evidence do you have to back up your opinion Sentry was going lightspeed?
Superman flew to Europe and back before Lois Lane could finish a short sentence.

Sentry flew like 100 ft before Hulk could finish his soliloquy.

Obviously they were both traveling at lightspeed.

Originally posted by Alfheim
He fly to the sun and back and how it was presented imùplied that it was a very short time IMO lightspeed or close. This Sentry was more powerful and stated he was not holding back. The situation implies that he would have charged him at top speed.

That's great, but like I said traveling speed and combat speed are two different things. Also I'm talking about what are your facts that Sentry bullrushed Hulk at lightspeed?

Originally posted by Alfheim

Well theres this, not only that he was fighting Gladiator and he was using his superspeed in that fight and you know how fast Glads can be.

http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg

and theres also the fact that Thing said he was fast for him.

So that was them going near lightspeed then? Also Gladiator has stalemated with Cannonball. Hell Colossus and him were pretty even, and Colossus is not Flash

Thing is a speedster?