Flash vs Hulk

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's great, but like I said traveling speed and combat speed are two different things. Also I'm talking about what are your facts that Sentry bullrushed Hulk at lightspeed?

I just explained you dont have to agree but could you at least read what I said.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

So that was them going near lightspeed then? Also Gladiator has stalemated with Cannonball. Sooo...errr?

Thing is a speedster?

hey you said Hyperion ahs never used uber reflexes. Its just you stated that he ahd trouble hitting Spiderman so im showing you characters that have faster speed feats that he has no trouble hitting.

Gladiator has different showings some fast, some slow. The fact that the panel uses the term nanoseconds implies that both were fighting at superspeed.

To be quite honest though im not of the opinion Hulk has beaten Glads and Hyperion therefore Hulk has superman reflexes. I think it depends on how you look at it characters can speedblitz but its not always shown that way and im pretty sure Hulk has beaten other superman-esque type characters, one could argue that if he keeps doing it then it cant all be PIS.

I just think the WWH stopping the Sentry charge could at least make it debatable that since Hulk wont go down straight away at some point Flash may get, I mean hell he does get hit by much slower people you know.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Even though I complete and utterly disagree with Alf in this thread.

That was pretty funny. I give him props. 👆

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Even though I complete and utterly disagree with Alf in this thread.

That was pretty funny. I give him props. 👆

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Even though I complete and utterly disagree with Alf in this thread.

That was pretty funny. I give him props. 👆

LOL wasnt even my idea Pittman first posted it and I just posted it back.

Props to the Pitt man himself then. 👆

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Props to the Pitt man himself then. 👆

Yeah and he posted that after trying to say that he can punch a bullet and comparing it to Hulk pounching a charging Sentry. *shrug*

Even when people talk crap they still get props. Hell I wouldnt even be suprised if you think I said that Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Look at your image again; Sentry head is where Hulk fist is. Hulk punched straight and Sentry flew straight, Hulk didn’t punch down or to any other direction only straight. So that means that Sentry flew straight at him just the same if I punched straight and they fired the bullet. It is not luck but simple trajectories.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Superman flew to Europe and back before Lois Lane could finish a short sentence.

Sentry flew like 100 ft before Hulk could finish his soliloquy.

Obviously they were both traveling at lightspeed.

Using speech while in hyperspeed mode is nothing new to comics, characters do it all the time. Flash has done it, Superman has done it, does it make them slower? It's the same thing as a character's costume - a character can survive heat as hot as the sun doesn't have his clothes burnt off, etc..

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and he posted that after trying to say that he can punch a bullet and comparing it to Hulk pounching a charging Sentry. *shrug*

Even when people talk crap they still get props. Hell I wouldnt even be suprised if you think I said that Hulk wins.

Obviously they don't get props for talking crap otherwise you would never get a rest from it. 😬

Originally posted by Alfheim
I just explained you dont have to agree but could you at least read what I said.

hey you said Hyperion ahs never used uber reflexes. Its just you stated that he ahd trouble hitting Spiderman so im showing you characters that have faster speed feats that he has no trouble hitting.

Gladiator has different showings some fast, some slow. The fact that the panel uses the term nanoseconds implies that both were fighting at superspeed.

To be quite honest though im not of the opinion Hulk has beaten Glads and Hyperion therefore Hulk has superman reflexes. I think it depends on how you look at it characters can speedblitz but its not always shown that way and im pretty sure Hulk has beaten other superman-esque type characters, one could argue that if he keeps doing it then it cant all be PIS.

I just think the WWH stopping the Sentry charge could at least make it debatable that since Hulk wont go down straight away at some point Flash may get, I mean hell he does get hit by much slower people you know.

How would Hulk hitting a slow Sentry mean he can hit Flash?

Originally posted by Peek
How would Hulk hitting a slow Sentry mean he can hit Flash?

Originally posted by Alfheim

Im not saying that Hulk wins im saying Hulk can get some hit in. IMO opinion Sentry has shown lightspeed flight and since he stated he was not holding back I think he wuld have flown at him at full speed.

That is different from Flash going around in circles but I think if he can hit a target moving at lightspeed he may be able to get some shots in, especially since I dont think Flash will take him down straight away.

The underlined bit means nothing.

The fact is you can see Hulk got blitzed by less than Sentry's full speed. Then Sentry even slower just managed to get hit by hulk.

What makes you think flash can get hit by Hulk?

Originally posted by Kutulu
Using speech while in hyperspeed mode is nothing new to comics, characters do it all the time. Flash has done it, Superman has done it, does it make them slower? It's the same thing as a character's costume - a character can survive heat as hot as the sun doesn't have his clothes burnt off, etc..

Speech can be used as indicative of time and/or speed as in the Superman example given; not always, but then also not never either. The panels sequentially show Sentry's approach, and sequentially unveil Hulk's sentence.

But ignoring that potentially indicative but inconclusive factor...

How fast do you think Sentry was flying in an enclosed metropolitan area?

Originally posted by Peek
The underlined bit means nothing.

The fact is you can see Hulk got blitzed by less than Sentry's full speed. Then Sentry even slower just managed to get hit by hulk.

What makes you think flash can get hit by Hulk?

Yeah it does, because it can well be argued that Flash will have trouble taking him down and hence get tired and like I said hes been hit by much slower people.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sentry wasn't the one talking...

Speech can be indicative of time and/or speed; not always, but then also not never either. The panels sequentially show Sentry's approach, and sequentially unveil Hulk's sentence.

That doesnt prove a damn thing. Its the same with your "there was no sonic boom" argument. Sometimes a sonic boom can mean something but there are lots of times where it doesnt, bringing it up is stupid.

The fact the Hulk had time to speak doesnt prove a damn thing. People often shout and talk after bullets are fired doesnt mean that they're talking at supersonic speed.

Originally posted by Alfheim
hey you said Hyperion ahs never used uber reflexes. Its just you stated that he ahd trouble hitting Spiderman so im showing you characters that have faster speed feats that he has no trouble hitting.

Gladiator has different showings some fast, some slow. The fact that the panel uses the term nanoseconds implies that both were fighting at superspeed.

To be quite honest though im not of the opinion Hulk has beaten Glads and Hyperion therefore Hulk has superman reflexes. I think it depends on how you look at it characters can speedblitz but its not always shown that way and im pretty sure Hulk has beaten other superman-esque type characters, one could argue that if he keeps doing it then it cant all be PIS.

I just think the WWH stopping the Sentry charge could at least make it debatable that since Hulk wont go down straight away at some point Flash may get, I mean hell he does get hit by much slower people you know.

He hasn't, and if thats uber reflexes then I like Flash's chances even more as that really wasn't impressive at all. 😬

So where's the proof his reflexes were like that in the fight? Northstar was said to be the same way, but he has tagged by things he shouldn't. Gladiator has a history as FAR MORE showings of him stalemating or having a hard fought battle with people with no superspeed. ie. Thing, Colossus, Hulk, etc.

Those superman-type characters have shown to have pretty garbage combat speed as people with no superspeed what's so ever has stalemated them or had a hard time against them. You can't even compare their combat speed with Flash. 😬

Errrr? how. we have no indication of Sentry's speed and he was forced to move in one location not using his speed to the fullest.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He hasn't, and if thats uber reflexes then I like Flash's chances even more as that really wasn't impressive at all. 😬

So where's the proof his reflexes were like that in the fight? Northstar was said to be the same way, but he has tagged by things he shouldn't. Gladiator has a history as FAR MORE showings of him stalemating or having a hard fought battle with people with no superspeed. ie. Thing, Colossus, Hulk, etc.

Those superman-type characters have shown to have pretty garbage combat speed as people with no superspeed what's so ever has stalemated them or had a hard time against them. You can't even compare their combat speed with Flash. 😬

Errrr? how. we have no indication of Sentry's speed and he was forced to move in one location not using his speed to the fullest.

Ive made my post, im not going to repeat myself again. I actually think that Flash wins but quite frankly your not listening to anything im saying and just picking selective bits.

Hell I shoould have left ages ago, im just bored.

Originally posted by Alfheim
That doesnt prove a damn thing. Its the same with your "there was no sonic boom" argument. Sometimes a sonic boom can mean something but there are lots of times where it doesnt, bringing it up is stupid.

The fact the Hulk had time to speak doesnt prove a damn thing. People often shout and talk after bullets are fired doesnt mean that they're talking at supersonic speed.

Whereas you've extrapolated and are resolute that Sentry has to be flying at light speed, like he did like, one? time before, despite pretty much everything depicted contradicting that.

Sentry's speed feats suck ass compared to Flash's travel and combat speed anyway.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I didn't say it proved anything in particular. I said such things can be indicative and have generally stated the speed of Sentry in that fight to be undetermined and inconclusive.

Whereas you've extrapolated and are resolute that Sentry has to be flying at light speed, like he did like, one? time before, despite pretty much everything depicted contradicting that.

Sentry's speed feats suck ass compared to Flash's travel and combat speed anyway.

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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Props to the Pitt man himself then. 👆

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and he posted that after trying to say that he can punch a bullet and comparing it to Hulk pounching a charging Sentry. *shrug*

Even when people talk crap they still get props. Hell I wouldnt even be suprised if you think I said that Hulk wins.

Now lets take a look at your favorite image that you like to post. http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh013.jpg Now we see the Hulk in a lunged position taking a step forward to deliver his blow from the crouched position that he was in before. Right before the hit http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh012.jpg Sentry is only a few feet away so If Sentry was traveling at light speed then Hulk would have to have moved faster than light speed to stand up and move forward to be able to hit Sentry. So if Hulk could step forward to hit Sentry that means that he could run at light speed. If you also want to look at the wreckage in the background and foreground, it is still moving and falling, the last time that I checked the pull of gravity doesn’t move things faster than the speed of light so all of that would have been the same from frame to frame.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
😄
So I guess Carp = Logical 😛

Now lets take a look at your favorite image that you like to post. http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh013.jpg Now we see the Hulk in a lunged position taking a step forward to deliver his blow from the crouched position that he was in before. Right before the hit http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh012.jpg Sentry is only a few feet away so If Sentry was traveling at light speed then Hulk would have to have moved faster than light speed to stand up and move forward to be able to hit Sentry. So if Hulk could step forward to hit Sentry that means that he could run at light speed. If you also want to look at the wreckage in the background and foreground, it is still moving and falling, the last time that I checked the pull of gravity doesn’t move things faster than the speed of light so all of that would have been the same from frame to frame.

*sigh*