Does EVERYTHING have an opposite?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh, I see, acting in my capacity as a global mod to call out trolling when I see it is a vendetta, is it?

Funny, because when I called Lil out on making unfounded claims, it was seen as a vendetta and trolling. You get to tell us what YOU mean, as if it's fact, yet when I do the same, your opinion of what I say is the fact? Yes, you're a hypocrite.

When I'm saying it wasn't trolling, and I'm the one who said it. I specifically told her I didn't have a problem with her or what she said, but how she was saying it, clarified that I was being civil and she still failed to be civil in return.

You refuse to acknowledge this.

-AC

Again, AC, you are wrong. Just because you say you didn;t mean it, that doesn;t change a thing. As a mod, I call things as I see them- and what I saw was clear. Your protests do not matter.

Your threat to me is also ludicrous, seeing as, once more, I am acting in my capacity as a global mod.

Let me make this very, very clear. The way you worded that post to Lil? That will be treated as trolling. You did it deliberately to aggravate her. That is what trolling is, and it is certainly something we want to stamp out around here. So if you do it again, it will be warnings, and then bannings, and no matter how much you protest your innocence, that will still happen.

Now, I don't really care much about the rest of your opinion there; it is the same sound and fury any troublesome poster gives when called out. You haven't been warned yet but keep this up and you will be. Stop this argument, and do not make posts designed to aggravate like that again.

I came in here to point out that what AC did is wrong. That is part of my job. Everyone is well advised to listen to that statement. Do not do things like that.

Now everyone- return to topic.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Funny, because when I called Lil out on making unfounded claims, it was seen as a vendetta and trolling. You get to tell us what YOU mean, as if it's fact, yet when I do the same, your opinion of what I say is the fact? Yes, you're a hypocrite.

When I'm saying it wasn't trolling, and I'm the one who said it. I specifically told her I didn't have a problem with her or what she said, but how she was saying it, clarified that I was being civil and she still failed to be civil in return.

You refuse to acknowledge this.

-AC

No, she wasn't trolling, she was pissed off, which wasn't appropriate but then nor was you deliberately pissing her off. Which is why I said you are just as culpable.

Now, that's all there is to it.

Bardock, meanwhile, clearly at his own volition, can take some time off.

What's the opposite of "abusing mod powers to get the last word in a debate"?

I need a mod now to explain what lil b did wrong, since I can't see it on my own. But sadly only AC gets called out on something he didn't even do.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Again, AC, you are wrong. Just because you say you didn;t mean it, that doesn;t change a thing. As a mod, I call things as I see them- and what I saw was clear. Your protests do not matter.

You see it as trolling, fine. I have my own opinions of that ridiculous claim, but fine.

That is only how you see it, though, it doesn't make it a fact.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Your threat to me is also ludicrous, seeing as, once more, I am acting in my capacity as a global mod.

You're abusing your mod powers to stop me and Bardock replying to you, as you've tried to do to us before and to many other members. I'm well within my rights to defend myself, and you're simply warning me not to, which is ridiculous.

At least take what you try to give.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Let me make this very, very clear. The way you worded that post to Lil? That will be treated as trolling. You did it deliberately to aggravate her. That is what trolling is, and it is certainly something we want to stamp out around here. So if you do it again, it will be warnings, and then bannings, and no matter how much you protest your innocence, that will still happen.

You are the one telling me I deliberately did it to aggravate her, though. I'm telling you, as I told her, that I didn't. Regardless of your opinion of me, I don't mince my words. If I wanted to troll her or insult her, I would.

I didn't. I called her on posts she was making and she didn't like it.

If you want to stamp out trolling, it starts at home. Stop using your powers to gain leverage when you're being replied to.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Now, I don;t rally care much about the rest of your opinion there; it is the same sound and fury any troublesome poster gives when called out. You haven;t been warned yet but keep this up and you will be. Stop this argument, and do not make posts designed to aggravate like that again.

I didn't make posts designed to aggravate, fact. I'm the source of it, how you saw it doesn't matter. I edited my original post so it was LESS volatile because I knew it was pointless, that's evidence that I didn't intend to aggravate, and so are my continual claims that I didn't have a problem with her, that she shouldn't take it personal and that I was asking civilly.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I came in here to point out that what AC did is wrong. That is part of my job. Everyone is well advised to listen to that statement. Do not do things like that.

You came in to point out what you are convinced I did wrong, for no good reason, and without listening to the person who said it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, she wasn't trolling, she was pissed off, which wasn't appropriate but then nor was you deliberately pissing her off. Which is why I said you are just as culpable.

If I'm just as much to blame, in your opinion, then why am I the only one catching blame? You've not said one thing to her. You're proving my point.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Now everyone- return to topic.

Have you posted on topic yet, Ush? Oh...

-AC

Big difference- I am a mod, so it is appropriate for me to come in and comment on disciplinary matters. It is absolutely not your place to hang around arguing them in public.

I am giving you a lot of leeway here, AC- perhaps far more than you deserve. If you want to keep arguing, take it to PM. But don't keep up this argument against moderator's decisions in here. You know, you know full well, that that is a banning offence. You don't agree with my decision, that's fine, but you know it is still my decision. I don't want to warn you because what you did was not a Defcon 1 out and out killer offence, it is something we want discouraged so I told you not to do it again. Contrary to what you think, that was a decision taken after reading carefully everyone's posts on the matter.

So that's where it ends up. Hate me for it all you like, but that is still as it is. Now, do you seriously want to push this further and go out like Bardock? I don't think so.

Once more- stop this arguing. Don't make posts like that again. And return to topic. It;s definitely a wanring if you carry on this time, AC.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Big difference- I am a mod, so it is appropriate for me to come in and comment on disciplinary matters. It is absolutely not your place to hang around arguing them in public.

Yes, you're a mod. Chill out. You're not Jesus.

Well I tried to PM you before, the last time this happened, and you said you didn't "care" to hear what I thought about it, or something along those lines. Which is probably true. You continually claim things about me, knowing that I am within my right to defend myself, in the hopes that you can ban me. That was your intension when you came in here, and it remains so (It's not nice to be told what your intensions are, is it?).

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I am giving you a lot of leeway here, AC- perhaps far more than you deserve. If you want to keep arguing, take it to PM. But don't keep up this argument against moderator's decisions in here. You know, you know full well, that that is a banning offence. You don't agree with my decision, that's fine, but you know it is still my decision. I don't want to warn you because what you did was not a Defcon 1 out and out killer offence, it is something we want discouraged so I told you not to do it again. Contrary to what you think, that was a decision taken after reading carefully everyone's posts on the matter.

Then accept that you're putting something across as fact that isn't a fact, accept that your opinion of what I did is just that. You still view it as trolling despite my posts, despite me explaining and defending myself, despite me editing my first post.

You're ignoring reason. I said I don't agree with your decision to see it as trolling, but I can't change that you do, the least you could do is retract the very rude statement telling me what I meant, and telling me what I said.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
So that's where it ends up. Hate me for it all you like, but that is still as it is. Now, do you seriously want to push this further and go out like Bardock? I don't think so.

Your threats are as useless against me as "mine" are against you. So I'd advise not doing it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Once more- stop this arguing. Don't make posts like that again. And return to topic. It;s definitely a wanring if you carry on this time, AC.

Like I said, retract the very rude and ignorant comment of "You meant this, I'm telling you what you meant." and I'll consider it done.

-AC

Good Lord, AC, do you seriously expect mods to change decisions just because people say "I wasn't doing that"? In my judgment, you were, regardless of your claims otherwise. I think it was very clear that you were. That's pretty much how moderating works.

And now you have pushed it further, and now you are getting a warning. Keep this up and it is a ban.

Last time, AC. Stop this now, or you will be banned. It's very simple! Arguing with the mods is a bannable offence. You are arguing with a mod. You are being warned to stop. Do not stop, and you will be banned. Cut and dried.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Good, Lord, AC, do you seriously expect mods to change decisions just because people say "I wasn't doing that"? In my judgment, you were, regardless of your claims otherwise. I think it was very clear that you were.

You think it was clear that I was, when it's obvious I wasn't, fine. Ridiculous, but that's up to you.

You think as you wish, but don't tell me what I meant, what I did and call it a fact. Regardless of what I think, I'd have expected a better reaction from you than that.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
And now you have pushed it further, and now you are getting a warning. Keep this up and it is a ban.

It was always going to be, as I said, from the minute you singled me out.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Last time, AC. Stop this now, or you will be banned. It's very simple! Arguing with the mods is a bannable offence. You are arguing with a mod. You are being warned to stop. Do not stop, and you will be banned. Cut and dried.

Do as you wish, I've done nothing wrong that I didn't rectify.

-AC

No it was not 'always going to be', AC. In fact, you weren't even getting a warning. No matter how peeved you were at the decision, all you had to do was live with it. And no matter how utterly convinced you seem to be that this is some weird vendetta, this is all done purely in my capacity as a global. I can slam the door on you right now for continuing to post about this after being told not to. It's so very very clear that you are breaking a ban-worthy rule here. The only person making you do that is you. No agenda, no conspiracy. Just you, and not knowing a good time to stop talking.

Please God, stop. That's the last limb I'm extending to you.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it was not 'always going to be', AC. In fact, you weren't even getting a warning. No matter how peeved you were at the decision, all you had to do was live with it. And no matter how utterly convinced you seem to be that this is some weird vendetta, this is all done purely in my capacity as a global. I can slam the door on you right now for continuing to post about this after being told not to. It's so very very clear that you are breaking a ban-worthy rule here. The only person making you do that is you. No agenda, no conspiracy. Just you, and not knowing a good time to stop talking.

Please God, stop. That's the last limb I'm extending to you.

I'm civilly asking you, not to change your opinion of my posts, but to at the very least apologise for making such false and presumptuous claims toward me.

Don't ignore that simple, civil request to make it look as though you're doing me a favour. I can live with your opinions of me or my posts, but you didn't accept that they were opinions. That's the only reason why I'm still posting to you. You always have a distaste for people telling you what you meant in the GDF, yet you did it to me here. I requested an apology after explicitly showing what I meant, and you wouldn't give one. Or at least a retraction of that one comment.

I don't have to accept being told what I mean, neither does anyone.

-AC

I'll reply to that by PM, but there is absolutely no chance of any such thing.

My warning to all stands- don't make posts deliberately designed to aggravate people, and especially don't do it and then stand back and pretend innocence.

So, back to topic.

Why isn't there? I'm not pretending innocence am I? Enough people here will vouch for me when I say that if I wanted to insult someone, I'd do so. I don't mince words.

I'm saying that it's only you claiming I did it, you claiming it as a fact. Which I don't have to accept. You believing it, fine, that doesn't make it fact.

-AC

It is all handled in the PM.

So,

I believe everything has an opposite - a duality in everything. Spiritual side as well as practical.
Cosmic law of politry, to be percise.

everything in the world has an opposite (polarity).

Having a polar opposite is a prerequisite for existence -
Without darkness, there can be no light!
Without evil, what is good?!

etc...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So,

I believe everything has an opposite - a duality in everything. Spiritual side as well as practical.
Cosmic law of politry, to be percise.

everything in the world has an opposite (polarity).

Having a polar opposite is a prerequisite for existence -
Without darkness, there can be no light!
Without evil, what is good?!

etc...

I think it is a matter of definition.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So,

I believe everything has an opposite - a duality in everything. Spiritual side as well as practical.
Cosmic law of politry, to be percise.

everything in the world has an opposite (polarity).

Having a polar opposite is a prerequisite for existence -
Without darkness, there can be no light!
Without evil, what is good?!

etc...

What's the opposite of a grape?

Originally posted by clap
What's the opposite of a grape?

Grape has a relative opposite, not absolute. So wine or grape juice can be opposite of grape.

Grape is a solid, wine or grape juice is a liquid. Relative opposites.

I still think that you're detailing opposites of particular characteristics of a grape. There is no total opposite of a grape.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think it is a matter of definition.

I'd consider opposite to be total opposite (opposite of 10 is -10) not simply a characteristic (the opposite of me is anything that isn't alive), which seems to be your definition.

(Edit - just realised that's what you meant by relative opposite. Bah. I'd still say that not everything has an opposite, which I'd consider different from relative opposite.)

Originally posted by Trickster
I still think that you're detailing opposites of particular characteristics of a grape. There is no total opposite of a grape.

I'd consider opposite to be total opposite (opposite of 10 is -10) not simply a characteristic (the opposite of me is anything that isn't alive), which seems to be your definition.

(Edit - just realised that's what you meant by relative opposite. Bah. I'd still say that not everything has an opposite, which I'd consider different from relative opposite.)

No absolute opposite - duality in everyhing, but not necesseraly absolute one. Its maybe more trinity like.

Grape is a fruit before anything else. I suppose looking for its opposite should start there.

I would say the opposite of you is a female. I don;t think we can find direct opposite of you anyway, since you are not defined in a single term - apart from maybe male human.