Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
Sion isn't really invulnerable.
Apparently in the fight with him, he has to heal himself when you hit him with the lightsaber and then he gets tired.
That, and judging from statements made by himself and Kreia, his psuedoinvulnerability is only available on planets strong in the dark side.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The fact that you put Sion above Nihilus gives me great lulz,
Good to know. Really. I love hearing what gives you "great lulz," but a few of the less direct members have informed me that it makes them extremely uncomfortable, and would prefer it if you kept such creepy facts to yourself.
Originally posted by IKP
I fail to see the relevance in that question. Whether he was attacked or not (not), he still had to hold his body together, which is exactly what you like to call his "psuedoinvulnerability," does.
Why are you so hesitant to answer a simple question, Nebaris? Was he attacked there or not?
Edit: Then I can assume from the mentioned '(not)' that he wasn't? That changes the whole thing all together. No one said that Sion wasn't capable of holding himself together outside of planets strong in the dark side. What is called into question is his ability to hold himself together after being decisively beaten in lightsaber combat without a strong dark side presence.
Before I respond, can you tell me if these quotes are what you're referring to?
"There will be another time. But it is not now, not here, while Korriban runs through him." - 02:13
For Sith I'd say:
1. DE Sidious
2. Darth Caedus (based on the performance he showed against Luke in their lightsaber duel)
3. Darth Nihilus
4. Marka Ragnos (I know the info we have on him is limited, but ruling over thousands of bloodthirsty Sith Lords for 100 years is amazing, and the power he commanded must have been great if Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh will bow down to his spirit)
5. Darth Bane - I haven't read RoT yet so I can't be sure, just curious does it say anything about Bane nudging the moon out of orbit in it?
6. Freedon Nadd (didn't he take over a city all by himself? ANd even as a spirit he was able to trap Exar Kun under a pile of rocks and almost kill him)
7. Exar Kun
8. Ulic Qel-Droma
9. Darth Revan
10. Darth Traya (Force Drain)
A few others maybe should be up there. Simus, facing Marka Ragnos in combat speaks for itself and being able to survive as a head in a jar is a feat. of considerable power, all he had was a head and ROTS Anakin would have died with 1/2 a body left if Palpatine hadn't come and saved him! But I left Simus out cause he's too unknown and like somebody else said maybe he if like Sion and is just "invinsible". Same with Tulak Hord, he's too unknown but would likely be to 10. And Sion I left out simply because I don't like him.
Jedi I am not certain about. Luke's #1 obviously but that's all I'm certain of.
Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
You already said the quotes were misinterpreted. You then offered up a BS interpretation to suit your BS claim of Sion being at the top.
I truly have no idea what you're talking about
Sidious frickin' drops Sion in a blackhole. The end.
Wow, wonderful argument. That looks fun, I think I'll have a go:
Sion flips over Sidious at the speed of light and decapitates him in a heartbeat. It's over.
Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]For Sith I'd say:
1. DE Sidious
2. Darth Caedus (based on the performance he showed against Luke in their lightsaber duel)
3. Darth Nihilus
4. Marka Ragnos (I know the info we have on him is limited, but ruling over thousands of bloodthirsty Sith Lords for 100 years is amazing, and the power he commanded must have been great if Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh will bow down to his spirit)
5. Darth Bane - I haven't read RoT yet so I can't be sure, just curious does it say anything about Bane nudging the moon out of orbit in it?
6. Freedon Nadd (didn't he take over a city all by himself? ANd even as a spirit he was able to trap Exar Kun under a pile of rocks and almost kill him)
A padawan neophyte Exar who happened to be standing under the massive cavern caving in whereas Nadd did the equivalent of tossing a lit match on a trail of gunpowder.
He's described as crushing it into millions of pieces, and nothing indicates that it was a chain reaction like you appear to think. So what exactly gives you that impression?
Aside from that, he's shown to be able to completely heal Exar Kun's body, and attack Vodo, one of the era's top Jedi Masters, whilst lightyears away.
And he took over said city by dazzling the natives with his force powers, making them think he was a God. Hardly a massive display of power.
Why do you always feel the need to lie about this, Lightsnake? He's described as dominating the world with his power in one source, and using his blaster and short lightsaber in another. It's pretty clear that some level of martial force was used, and what you're saying isn't stated in a single canon source.
Originally posted by IKPIts funny how you used to ramble attacking an opponent lightyears away is nothing impressive and now you contradict yourself again(but thats nothing new). Thats a bit hypocritical yea?Aside from that, he's shown to be able to completely heal Exar Kun's body, and attack Vodo, one of the era's top Jedi Masters, whilst lightyears away.
No, there's no contradiction whatsoever, and perhaps when you learn to include all of the factors, you'll be able to understand that (as this is not the first time you've accused me of contradicting myself on the matter).
Vader's act of using the Force, from such distances, alone, is clearly not exceptionally impressive, given that low tiers like Plo Koon have replicated the action.
Nadd, on the other hand, did the exact same, but to a Jedi Master, as an infinitely weaker spirit. It's all three factors that make the feat impressive (the distance being the least impressive of all three).
So no, not a single contradiction. Nice try, but unlucky. On another note, why exactly do you sport a Darth Bane signature and avatar when - by your own admission - you hate the character?