RAP - (It's only music)..So then what's your problem with it?

Originally posted by Swe_Bum
Yeah i also think that the "old" rap/hip-hop can Be OK..
But All thees 10.000 Diffrent "new" Rapers are SH!T!
And they all think they can sing and make good "music" but Nah.. 👇

here's hip hop lyrics at it's finest:

Illogic- Hate In A Puddle

I hate when it rains, cause in puddles I encounter this guy
Unable to give a rebuttal but swift as the pain flood his eyes
wonderin why he's a gift with no purpose
A priceless one-of-a-kind piece that's worthless
Grounded with no surface
And when he shows one, it's a facade
Cause inside he fights feelings that he was mistake by God
I see his confusion and self-deception
Questions of relevance and intelligence
He holds an illusion of self-acceptance
that he shows to those outside lookin in
He's outside lookin in to his own life; lookin for strength
to carry on as a pawn in this chess game of existance
In his mind he wants to go on to the dawn
and leave the stress that came with existance
Hopin in death he'll find life
Cause as he lives, he roams the dark, tryin to find light
He's made his heart so hard, he doesn't even cry anymore
Cause he's confronted sorrow frequently
His heart's been broken frequently
It's like he's lost some part of him and just haven't found it yet
So in his search, he's left with nothin but questions and regret
All he wants to know is how one day, he's content
and the next day he's cryin
cause his life isn't what he thought life meant
He just wants to be happy, with his love and all
But too often I get messages through telepathic calls
He's askin me through a puddle what more must he endure to continue
But for some reason he knows he most endure to continue

and if u like dark hardcore hip hop, i recommend Jedi Mind Tricks

[Ikon the Hologram]

Intersections in real time
The umbrokencircle in dimensions of the mind
Atomic bonds
The eternal time that defines
The vanity of my insanity in thru time
Will shine
Like the night seeds under the moon
The haunted corners of familiar rooms
Yet i'm consumed
With vanishing into thin air
The realization that this shit is my cross to bare
So where
Did I think I could run away to see
The people that decided to leave without asking me
But we
Decide to wait for happier tomorrows
And find someone so they can be distractions from our sorrows
For my distractions the books of paper that i've scrawlened
I'm eloquent in summer breeze and leaves just have fallen
I crawl in a corner hoping all of this will end
With the knowledge that love is just another word for revenge
I who have nothing but the comfort of my sins
I who have nothing but the comfort of my friends

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Nah, it's not weird. Here's how it goes:

70's to '86 = Old school hip-hop

'86 to '93 = Golden age of hip-hop

'93 to now = Modern age of hip-hop with (98 to now = New age of hip-hop) - still modern age -

When Dmx, Em, Canibus, Ja and 50 and everyone else started to come in. Basically after Big and Pac passed. Oh, and you forgot "Me Against the World" and the chronic. Yea the chronic came out in '92 but it's the only album I'll include in the modern age.

i break it down like this

Hip Hop 70's- 96

Hip Hop Dead 97-2006

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i agree

Originally posted by Swe_Bum
It sux IMO... no good Lyrics, No Good Sound and They all sing about the same shit: Money, Sex, Drugs, pimp.. etc, etc..
And it sux balls... I cant understand The good thing with rap.. they don't even Show the rest of the "band" Its just the Singer Who gets the attention.. unlike the most Metal bands where every one get to be seen and have their Spot in the Light. But not in Most of the rapers Videos/Announcement.. i've only seen the Singer(s) Talk And seen on their Videos.

I totally agree with you and see exactly where you're coming from. However with me it's not so much the lyrics; its the actual structure of the "music" itself. With rap there's no singing, no playing of an instrument, its just some guy talking on a mic. Where's the talent in that??? You might as well listen to a lecture from a professor or a politician's speech.

Also, rhyming doesn't automatically make it music, just like reading a nursery rhyme outloud doesn't equal music.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul
I totally agree with you and see exactly where you're coming from. However with me it's not so much the lyrics; its the actual structure of the "music" itself. With rap there's no singing, no playing of an instrument, its just some guy talking on a mic. Where's the talent in that??? You might as well listen to a lecture from a professor or a politician's speech.

Also, rhyming doesn't automatically make it music, just like reading a nursery rhyme outloud doesn't equal music.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul

With rap there's no singing, no playing of an instrument, its just some guy talking on a mic. Where's the talent in that???

You might as well listen to a lecture from a professor or a politician's speech.

Also, rhyming doesn't automatically make it music,

just like reading a nursery rhyme outloud doesn't equal music.

^ To say that just goes to show that the element of ignorance has to do with why "they" hate rap. This persons last rap song heard must've been a Will Smith track that a pop station, he listens alot, accidentally slipped into it's play-list.

Wow. I'm beginning to see where the problem is. People don't even know about rap. They just know it exists. And people fear or are uncomfortable with things they don't understand. They end up not bothering with it and it results in a negative experience while associating negative experience with subject by saying nothing but bad things about it.

ive never put rap into categories. i like newer stuff underground guys are putting out a lot more than any golden era records. i just dont see the point of labeling things, it just creates boundaries.

Originally posted by -hh-
you mentioned D Block and spelled Jadakiss wrong. Jadakiss is part of D Block

😆

Originally posted by JacopeX
Well at least i said Juelz Santana ((Dipset)) 😊

what does that have to do with anything i said 😆 dumbass 😆

Ok then, lets go back to your subject:

I made a mistake there

Originally posted by JacopeX
Ok then, lets go back to your subject:

I made a mistake there

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What's the deal with conservatives and rap.

They call rappers black trash yet they market their own company products using some type of Hip-Hop influence to promote their items.

Or they talk about the harsh messages in rap. What about the harsh messages in movies that are not only audible but visual as well. Crazy violence. And it last 1 and a half hours of it. rather than the 4 min in song that seems to get more attention. On top of which, a whole rap album isn't even as long as a movie. (i think.)

But like movies, I listen to rap for the entertainment it offers.

But I'd like to know what's your problem with it (If you hate rap music)

The f*ck are you talking about?

You give no quotes, no sources, no idea why you think that all conservatives hate rap and call rappers "black trash".

Got news for you bud, I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, and I grew up loving rap and still appreciate it now.

As posted before, my fave ten albums:

Me Against the World- 2Pac
Don Kuliminati:7 Day Theory- Makevelli
Adrenaline Rush- Twista
Get In Where You Fit In- Too $hort
Stupid Doo Doo Dumb- Mac Dre
E. 1999 Eternal- Bone Thugs 'N Harmony
The Streetz Iz A Mutha- Kurupt
Doggystyle- Snoop Doggy Dogg
Chronic 2001- Dr. Dre
Marshall Mathers LP- Eminem

Not every conservative fits in your little box idea of them, some of us just think that saving whales and trees, and killing babies and old people is bullshit.

Anywayz, the point is that there is a little more to this world, to conservatives and liberals, to politics, and to race relations, than what you seem to be getting from John Stewart on the daily show.

Originally posted by -hh-
Congratu****inglations

Originally posted by JacopeX
Thanx? 😬

Originally posted by sithsaber408
The f*ck are you talking about?

You give no quotes, no sources, no idea why you think that all conservatives hate rap and call rappers "black trash".

Got news for you bud, I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, and I grew up loving rap and still appreciate it now.

As posted before, my fave ten albums:

Me Against the World- 2Pac
Don Kuliminati:7 Day Theory- Makevelli
Adrenaline Rush- Twista
Get In Where You Fit In- Too $hort
Stupid Doo Doo Dumb- Mac Dre
E. 1999 Eternal- Bone Thugs 'N Harmony
The Streetz Iz A Mutha- Kurupt
Doggystyle- Snoop Doggy Dogg
Chronic 2001- Dr. Dre
Marshall Mathers LP- Eminem

Not every conservative fits in your little box idea of them, some of us just think that saving whales and trees, and killing babies and old people is bullshit.

Anywayz, the point is that there is a little more to this world, to conservatives and liberals, to politics, and to race relations, than what you seem to be getting from John Stewart on the daily show.

Wow. You're so cool. You used the F-word and mentioned some hip rap albums you say you listen to.

But I don't think your a conservative. You're just confused. Either that or you're a hypocrite. Rap is a liberal concept. So what the f*ck are you talking about. Most conservatives are what they are: tight a$$e$

Originally posted by Mugen
Hef, how did you come to that conclusion?

The people in the Bronx were trying to get away from that kind of stuff, right? I guess I didn't explain myself good enough.

There is Rap, and Gangsta Rap(which makes 99% of the Rap Industry nowadays) I don't have problems with the small bit that isn't about being a Pimp and ****ing your Hoes. But sadly, almost all of it is. I have actually heard a song while I was in my Car, that repeatedly said ***** over and over(Pretty loud too, both of us had Windows closed, and I heard it pretty clearly) don't know what it was though. I'm a proud Conservative, and I hate Gangsta Rap, with a Passion, not really because it "Encourages Violence", but because to me, it isn't Music

Originally posted by sithsaber408
The f*ck are you talking about?

You give no quotes, no sources, no idea why you think that all conservatives hate rap and call rappers "black trash".

Got news for you bud, I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, and I grew up loving rap and still appreciate it now.

As posted before, my fave ten albums:

Me Against the World- 2Pac
Don Kuliminati:7 Day Theory- Makevelli
Adrenaline Rush- Twista
Get In Where You Fit In- Too $hort
Stupid Doo Doo Dumb- Mac Dre
E. 1999 Eternal- Bone Thugs 'N Harmony
The Streetz Iz A Mutha- Kurupt
Doggystyle- Snoop Doggy Dogg
Chronic 2001- Dr. Dre
Marshall Mathers LP- Eminem

Not every conservative fits in your little box idea of them, some of us just think that saving whales and trees, and killing babies and old people is bullshit.

Anywayz, the point is that there is a little more to this world, to conservatives and liberals, to politics, and to race relations, than what you seem to be getting from John Stewart on the daily show.

He believes that because the leaders of the party do say those things.

If your a Conservative Christian Republican and like hip hop, which in itself is almost completely against your ideals, then you yourself have a moral f*cking problem.