Originally posted by Lucid LuiNot really. He realized he got in over his head and could not stop the press and later even admitted being a little too cocky. Colossus on the other hand has actually stopped the press in the danger room while it was stuck at full power. I don't know how much tonnage that is but the press was just as big if not bigger than the one WM attempted to stop.
He was still holding 50,000 tons of weight back for a decent amount of time.
Originally posted by Lucid LuiIf Thor wasn't one of the Avengers there holding also that would be a good feat. But being Thor is capable of holding that much weight by himself it's not a good feat to use for WM. I mean Vision was there also but people don't use that as a feat for Vision.He was also one of the Avengers holding up the compressed island.
The problem with Wonderman is that the only occasions I read comics with him were back in the 90s when he was lousy. Like around the Infinity War when he kept on losing his powers. Or when he was fighting some useless people in West Coast Avengers. Either way I can't really tell how strong he is.
I'm sort of surprised that no one has posted that scan of the Thing having trouble lifting a weight that Wonderman works out with.
Originally posted by Silent MasterAgain he had help cause IW placed a wedge into the pivot point of the island. And oh yea his rocket belt may have had something to do with that also. I don't think it's really fair even if it is powered by his energy it's still a f*cking rocket belt. WM is a level 6 guy. Same as Colossus, Namor, Thing etc. All of their strength is pretty equal.
Sorry but supporting part of the Island that housed the hydrobase and a mountain far exceeds any strength feat that Colossus has ever done, that added with his much better track record in hth means that evern in a slugfest,Simon is the favorite.
I actually see Colossus standing a better chance than most do around here, although I still see Simon taking the majority. This isn't like, say, Supermn vs Hulk, where people can claim things like Simon can BFR him, attack him from a distance, or vibrate himself intangible.
I say Wonder Man wins, but Colossus gives him somewhat of a fight.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Again he had help cause IW placed a wedge into the pivot point of the island. And oh yea his rocket belt may have had something to do with that also. I don't think it's really fair even if it is powered by his energy it's still a f*cking rocket belt. WM is a level 6 guy. Same as Colossus, Namor, Thing etc. All of their strength is pretty equal.
If you read it,Sue says that 'he is taking some of the weight off' and then that 'he is lifting it', at which point Reed had her drop her shields and then place them in a different location. so if nothing else from the time she said 'he is lifting it' to the part where she recast her shields, He had zero help
And even ignoring the fact that the belt was powered by his energy, if he wasn't strong enough to lift the Island he wouldn't have been unable to hold onto it.
Originally posted by Accel
I actually see Colossus standing a better chance than most do around here, although I still see Simon taking the majority. This isn't like, say, Supermn vs Hulk, where people can claim things like Simon can BFR him, attack him from a distance, or vibrate himself intangible.I say Wonder Man wins, but Colossus gives him somewhat of a fight.
Actually since this thread is about a normal fight, Simon could BFR him or attack him from a distance.