Creation vs Evolution

Started by inimalist221 pages
Originally posted by Da Pittman
The do have a [gvid] embed for BBCode but it has to be installed into the forum by the Raz or the site admin. So have I totally confused you 😛

like you were speaking Hindi

Originally posted by inimalist
like you were speaking Hindi
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Here is something you can understand 😛

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Originally posted by Da Pittman
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Here is something you can understand 😛

pitt_signspin

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Originally posted by Da Pittman
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Here is something you can understand 😛

pitt_signspin

What? 😕

http://www.scientificblogging.com/adaptive_complexity/evolution_winning_in_court_but_losing_in_class

interesting and moderately encouraging read. Stats about how biology teachers teach and what they believe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What? 😕
😆
Originally posted by inimalist
http://www.scientificblogging.com/adaptive_complexity/evolution_winning_in_court_but_losing_in_class

interesting and moderately encouraging read. Stats about how biology teachers teach and what they believe.

Pretty good read. For me I don’t think that it is wrong to introduce people to ID or creation theories as long as they don’t try to say that it is science but they must also include the other theories as well.

I'm actually not against scientific debate between creationism and science.

it just is really apparent from the content most creation/ID supporters' arguments that they don't do real science.

If a science teacher wants to legitimately talk about the pros/cons of evolution and creationism in a proper scientific context, and not simply say things like "irreducable complexity blah blah blah, Panda's thumb yadda yadda, no positive mutations etc" then all power to them, it is probably more engaging than learning a set of facts to memorize. My fear is that, at least te 12-17% mentioned in that article, don't teach why creationism fails any test of real scientific methodology and think that by poking holes in the gaps of evolutionary science they are proving ID correct. But hey, pleasant surprise that it is only around 15%

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm actually not against scientific debate between creationism and science.

it just is really apparent from the content most creation/ID supporters' arguments that they don't do real science.

If a science teacher wants to legitimately talk about the pros/cons of evolution and creationism in a proper scientific context, and not simply say things like "irreducable complexity blah blah blah, Panda's thumb yadda yadda, no positive mutations etc" then all power to them, it is probably more engaging than learning a set of facts to memorize. My fear is that, at least te 12-17% mentioned in that article, don't teach why creationism fails any test of real scientific methodology and think that by poking holes in the gaps of evolutionary science they are proving ID correct. But hey, pleasant surprise that it is only around 15%

Agreed 👆

Another missing link:

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080521-texas-fossil.html

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Another missing link:

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080521-texas-fossil.html

just 2 more gaps 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
http://www.scientificblogging.com/adaptive_complexity/evolution_winning_in_court_but_losing_in_class

interesting and moderately encouraging read. Stats about how biology teachers teach and what they believe.

I had a highschool bio teacher who was apparently a creationist. When it came to actual teaching, though, she taught evolution.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I had a highschool bio teacher who was apparently a creationist. When it came to actual teaching, though, she taught evolution.

weird....

what a sellout 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
weird....

what a sellout 😉

More like he wanted to keep his paycheck 😆

Originally posted by Da Pittman
More like he wanted to keep his paycheck 😆

...a sign of intelligence. 😂

i believe a bit of both evolution and creation. i believe both because techically if god is almighty he eouldnt need to work outside of science to do his will. maybe just maybe he created all life on earth, then let it run its caorse and make corrections here and there, influencing the evolution of humans the way he wanted them.

Originally posted by achangel death
i believe a bit of both evolution and creation. i believe both because techically if god is almighty he eouldnt need to work outside of science to do his will. maybe just maybe he created all life on earth, then let it run its caorse and make corrections here and there, influencing the evolution of humans the way he wanted them.

Hi achangel death.

How old is the Earth?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hi achangel death.

How old is the Earth?

An interesting question...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
An interesting question...

If a person believes in evolution and creation, then they must have a clear idea of how old the Earth is. The reason for this is because evolution takes time measured in millions of years, but creation (according to Christianity) took place only a few thousands of years ago. It will be interesting to see how someone who believes in both evolution and creation reconcile this conflict.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If a person believes in evolution and creation, then they must have a clear idea of how old the Earth is. The reason for this is because evolution takes time measured in millions of years, but creation (according to Christianity) took place only a few thousands of years ago. It will be interesting to see how someone who believes in both evolution and creation reconcile this conflict.

I think he answered your question in his original post.
Umm...where in Christianity is it written that creation only happened a few thousand years ago?

Many people believe in evolution as an instrument of God...there is no conflict.

There is a conflict between Literal Creationism and Evolution but you identified Christianity.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I think he answered your question in his original post.
Umm...where in Christianity is it written that creation only happened a few thousand years ago?

Many people believe in evolution as an instrument of God...there is no conflict.

There is a conflict between Literal Creationism and Evolution but you identified Christianity.

Sorry, I have not been on the forum all weekend. There is a lot have have not read back on.

There are a large number of Christians who believe that the Earth is a little older then 6,000 years old. They also believe that this is a biblically supported belief. You will need to ask one of them.