And perhaps he could only take Maul cause he knows, say, Makashi. But I was the one who originally made the assumption of Cin only being able to beat Grievous due to Soresu, and when I specifically said it was only a maybe.
Cin knows Soresu, Shii-Cho, Ataru, Shien, and Niman. He doesn't know Juyo and he doesn't know Makashi.
In this case Cin should use Soresu or Shien.
Niman (It's just a bad form)
Ataru (Might wear him down from Maul's quick strokes)
Shii-Cho (I don't think it'll do well against Juyo)
All we know abuot Cin is he's the battlemaster. That doesn't mean he can beat Maul.
Maul has killed Qui-Gon Jinn, who's probably in teh same level as Cin, probably even better.
I'm sorry, but I think Darth Maul wins.
Cin knows Soresu, Shii-Cho, Ataru, Shien, and Niman. He doesn't know Juyo and he doesn't know Makashi.
In this case Cin should use Soresu or Shien.
All we know abuot Cin is he's the battlemaster. That doesn't mean he can beat Maul.
Maul has killed Qui-Gon Jinn, who's probably in teh same level as Cin, probably even better.
So before saying Maul wins just cause you like him take a look at the facts. FYI I like Maul betetr than I like Cin, though Cin'snickname, "The Troll", is quite badass. devil2
Guess what, Maul lifts his shoulder before the 3 count. The battle continues!!! eek!
Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]That's the most bullshit I've ever heard. He knows forums 1-6 as he's the temple's battlemaster and therefor would have to be able to teach all forums except form 7, which Jedi don't use except Mace, Depa and Sora. So unless you can provide proof that he doesn't use Makashi shut it.
Im sorry but doesnt it specifically state somewhere that Dooku is the only practicioner of Makashi? I could be wrong however. But there is a source saying that Makashi died out at the death of Count Dooku. And the Count was killed before Cin. So logically this would prove Cin doesnt know it. Ill try and find that quote. I dont remember where I read it...
Originally posted by Rampant ox
Im sorry but doesnt it specifically state somewhere that Dooku is the only practicioner of Makashi? I could be wrong however. But there is a source saying that Makashi died out at the death of Count Dooku. And the Count was killed before Cin. So logically this would prove Cin doesnt know it. Ill try and find that quote. I dont remember where I read it...
I think dooku was just the only Makashi user of any note really, thats what they meant. Other people used it, but they sucked. So TRUE Makashi did die with Dooku.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Because Anakin was much better then he was. Anakin would be close if not on par with Mace in terms of a sheer lightsaber duel.
Anakin wasn't better than Grievous, Obi-Wan was sent because of Soresu, and his greater experience, if Anakin was the best for the Job they would have sent him. Hell, if Cin Drallig was capable of beating LOE Grievous, which Obi-Wan doubtfully could, why didn't they send him?
Anakin is below Mace, who is THE best Lightsaber fighter in the Order. If he was capable of beating Grievous, he would have DESTROYED Anakin
Originally posted by Rampant ox
^So Cin, if he did have knowledge of it, would not know it to the extent of it being useful in his fight against Maul.
Yea pretty much, it would be semi useful, but he was not a master of it. Lets just say Dooku's Makashi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over Cin's Makashi.
and Kreiger *sigh* how little you know...Its far to late for me to pwn you tonight, my pwning hours are between 1pm-10pm.
But seriously, Anakin is far better then Grievous. Anakin is in the same dueling league as Mace, Yoda, Dooku and Sidious.
That's the most bullshit I've ever heard. He knows forums 1-6 as he's the temple's battlemaster and therefor would have to be able to teach all forums except form 7, which Jedi don't use except Mace, Depa and Sora. So unless you can provide proof that he doesn't use Makashi shut it.
Just like everyone said before me, his Makshi won't be good at all as Dooku's the only real master of it.
Soresu or Makashi. Shien Maul would have a better chance of overpowering using his own offensive form.
Well Maul's Juyo will certainly put Cin's Makashi at test. As for Soresu, it might work but I think Maul will penetrate it after a while.
Sry for double post!
1. He was trained by Yoda, who is probably the strongest Jedi of his time. But then again, Maul was trained by Sidious, who is even slightly stronger than Yoda so their training is pretty even.
That doesn't mean a thing. Yoda trained a hundred Jedi, but did they all end up good? No! And Sidious is not better than Yoda!!!!
2. Cin is the battlemaster at the Council. Other battlemasters include Dooku and Kyle Katarn, who both could beat the shit outta Maul.
So, Dooku and Kyle are >>>>> Cin. Just because he's a battlemaster doesn't mean he can take a Sith Lord. It just means he's proficient in 5 forms.
3. he was killed by Anakin/Vader. But Maul would be, too.
Didn't Cin get killed by Anakin with one hand??? I doubt Maul can get killed with one hand!
4. He could take Grievous when GG's in his prime, something I seriously doubt that Maul could do since Grievous takes out 4 Jedi with ease in LOE and I don't see Maul doing that with any amount of ease. We also know that GG in his prime > Obsession Asajj, who msot people put on par with Maul. And saying that Cin can only take out Grievous cause of Soresu is 100% speculation. it may be true but there is nothing saying that it is but speculation.
Because Grievous has see the paterns in his opponents moves. He's a droid, so he can process the thoughts and land his moves correctly. And Maul can take on Grievous.
BTW, Soresu is probably Cin's only hope. I doubt his Ataru is better than Qui-Gon's. And unless his Shien is like Anakin's, he won't do much better either.
Now, can Cin Drallig comfortably defeat Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi? Personally, I don't think so, but even so, it'll be a hard one for him.
I say Maul takes this.
Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
Cin knows Soresu, Shii-Cho, Ataru, Shien, and Niman. He doesn't know Juyo and he doesn't know Makashi.In this case Cin should use Soresu or Shien.
Niman (It's just a bad form)
Ataru (Might wear him down from Maul's quick strokes)
Shii-Cho (I don't think it'll do well against Juyo)All we know abuot Cin is he's the battlemaster. That doesn't mean he can beat Maul.
Maul has killed Qui-Gon Jinn, who's probably in teh same level as Cin, probably even better.
I'm sorry, but I think Darth Maul wins.
We're just speculating that Qui-Gon is as good as Cin. Maybe in his prime, but not during the time when he fought Maul.
We're just speculating that Qui-Gon is as good as Cin. Maybe in his prime, but not during the time when he fought Maul.
I don't think Qui-Gon was very far from his prime. Yoda and Dooku are old, yet they fight very well by using the Force. Qui-Gon I believe does the same, but he wasn't performing well due to Maul's quick strikes. He was considered to be one of the best Ataru users according to Mace.
Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
I don't think Qui-Gon was very far from his prime. Yoda and Dooku are old, yet they fight very well by using the Force. Qui-Gon I believe does the same, but he wasn't performing well due to Maul's quick strikes. He was considered to be one of the best Ataru users according to Mace.
Very true, he was tired out by Maul's quick strikes. Also because of the Ataru thing. I'm pretty sure he was well past his prime, and, as was stated, it was Maul's quick strikes that brought that to an end. Anyway, Cin Drallig was not an Ataru user, so I'm guessing he would use Soresou to block most of them, then, like Obi-Wan use Ataru or Shii-Cho on the offensive.