Cin Drallig VS Darth Maul

Started by darthsith197 pages

No duh. Anakin was just measely slapping Cin Drallig's oh-so-powerful attacks away. All Cin was doing was moving sideways trying to hit Anakin, which Anakin fends off quite easily. If Cin Drallig was a master swordsmen, why doesn't he do some Ataru or some Shien to push Anakin back. Take a look at these pictures:

Why doesn't he use his saber skills to push Anakin back? Because Anakin is stronger than he is, that's why. The same reason that Obi-Wan didn't push Anakin back in 2 seconds. Are you saying that anyone who is unable to push ROTS Anakin back in 2 seconds isn't a master swordsman? Lol. As for Anakin measly slapping them back, yes he looked like he wasn't having to much trouble blocking thembut it's hard to tell from a little hologram.
PICTURE 1: THE START OF THE FIGHT:

OMG, it's Anakin with a yellow lightsaber! 😱
"""" Stone-faced, Obi-Wan watched younglings run into the room, fleeing a storm of blasterfire; he watched Cin Drallig and a pair of teenage Padawans--was that Whie, the boy Yoda had brought to Vjun?--backing into the scene, blades whirling, cutting down the advancing clone troopers with deflected bolts.

He watched a lightsaber blade flick into the shot, cutting down first one Padawan, then the other. He watched the brisk stride of a caped figure who hacked through Drallig’s shoulder, then stood aside as [the Master] fell dying to let the rest of the clones blast the children to shreds."""

Apparently, I get the impression that the battle was quick.


Yes, that was Whie. So where did you get this from? Cause I don't recal seeing Cin fight Clones in the hologram or seeing Cin die. So what's the source that this comes from? Also, for all we know Cin could have gotten shot by a Clone before fighging Vader and that could be why he didn't do so well (if he didn't do so well).

Yes, that was Whie. So where did you get this from? Cause I don't recal seeing Cin fight Clones in the hologram or seeing Cin die. So what's the source that this comes from? Also, for all we know Cin could have gotten shot by a Clone before fighging Vader and that could be why he didn't do so well (if he didn't do so well).

He didn't get show down. If you read it, the clones blasted the children. Cin was left dying by Vader. And this is the website where I found it. It's some ROTS excerpts.

http://community.livejournal.com/ewan_hayden/607316.html

Why doesn't he use his saber skills to push Anakin back? Because Anakin is stronger than he is, that's why. The same reason that Obi-Wan didn't push Anakin back in 2 seconds. Are you saying that anyone who is unable to push ROTS Anakin back in 2 seconds isn't a master swordsman? Lol. As for Anakin measly slapping them back, yes he looked like he wasn't having to much trouble blocking thembut it's hard to tell from a little hologram.

If Cin Drallig was so good, why didn't he use any of his great Soresu or Ataru skills to fend off Anakin? He lost, quite quickly. If he was anywhere near Obi-Wan's Soresu, he would have lasted about twelve seconds longer. And what we saw in the hologram is what we have to trust along with the ROTS novelization.

Yes, I admit Cin is very good, but I think Maul barely beats him.

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
[B]First off, your the dumb@$$.
You obviously know nothing about Niman. Yeah, it is the Diplomat's form, but it DOES use Makashi. It uses sections from every form counting one through seven.(Duh?) This means Drallig did know Makashi, although he may not have mastered it to the point that Dooku did.
And if you need proof that Shaak Ti knows Makashi, here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk...:_Makashi#Users
Look in there, some genious managed to shed some light on wether she knows Makashi or not. Lol.

"Also you say that Dooku must know Shien as well, which is why he lived through Geonosis."

You friggin Idiot, when the hell did I ever say he knew Shien?
Did you mean Shii-Cho? Of course he knew Form I!
And just for the record, since you probally never saw Episode II from the sound of it, no, Padme did not shoot at Count Dooku.

Anyway, I was making to a referance to some of Dooku's earlier battles, with the Mandalorians, etc. In those fights you can clearly see him demonstrate his use of Shii-Cho, during the firefights.

Rampant ox, beleive me, Im as abig a Christpopher Lee fan as you, he's awsome, loved his movies, he's a pimp.
But you don't need to keep making Dumb@$$ posts like this and embarrasing his good name. XD

Wow, speak for yourself. You are a dumb@ass!!!

From Wookiepedia:

"Form VI utilizes techniques from Form I, Form III, Form IV, and Form V."

There's no mention of Makashi. And for that reason, we don't know if Cin Drallig used Makashi or not. The only people I know that use Makashi during PT time are Count Dooku, Tholme, and Shaak Ti.

And Dooku knew all the forms. He was battlemaster for the Jedi order and he taught all the forms to Grievous and the MagnaGuards.

And how do you see Dooku using Shii-Cho in a comic? The only time we have ever seen Shii-Cho is in the Clone Wars series where Kit Fisto uses it underwater. Don't tell me you can tell he was using Shii-Cho. [/B]

Lol, no, your still the Dumb@$$.
Nick Gillard personally designed the coreography for his character in the game, and in the game he uses Makashi as one of his forms.
Realistically, thats about as Canon as you can get.

Also, show me proof that Dooku knew all the forms, I'd like to see somthing official looking, if ya don't mind. 😎

"And how do you see Dooku using Shii-Cho in a comic?"

Try reading one of the Jango Fett comics, it has a flashback of a young Dooku, clearly ustilising a Shii-Cho stance.

"The only time we have ever seen Shii-Cho is in the Clone Wars series where Kit Fisto uses it underwater."

😆 No, you retard. EVERY Jedi knows Shii-cho. Its taught to them while they are younglings, rarely do they decide to Master it though.
In any case, Shii-Cho is how Makashi users and Ataru users survive firefights with projectile weapons.

Oh yeah, Kit Fisto was one of the few Masters of Shii-Cho. 😛

Also, show me proof that Dooku knew all the forms, I'd like to see somthing official looking, if ya don't mind.

Dude he was battlemaster (lightsaber instructor), he knows all the forms.

Try reading one of the Jango Fett comics, it has a flashback of a young Dooku, clearly ustilising a Shii-Cho stance.

No, you don't if it's Shii-Cho. He just might look like that. Not all Jedi use their forms stance in combat.

No, you retard. EVERY Jedi knows Shii-cho. Its taught to them while they are younglings, rarely do they decide to Master it though.

Yeah, they know it. But guess what, they use when till there like nine, and then get chosen into padawan-ship. Then they learn another form, probably Niman.

In any case, Shii-Cho is how Makashi users and Ataru users survive firefights with projectile weapons.

Umm, no. When a person masters one form, he's going to stick with it. If I was a thirty old Makashi user and I am attacked with blasters, am I going to use a form that I learn about twenty years ago? No, I am going to stick with a form I know the best. And what are you talking about?!! Ataru users don't use Shii-Cho in firefights. They use Ataru. Ataru is not like Makashi, specially made for saber to saber.

Oh yeah, Kit Fisto was one of the few Masters of Shii-Cho.

Naw, you think.

He didn't get show down. If you read it, the clones blasted the children. Cin was left dying by Vader. And this is the website where I found it. It's some ROTS excerpts.

I know, what I am saying is for all we know Cin may have got woudned by Clones, like, shot in the shoulder and the leg and then he fought Vader and the reason that he didn't do so well is because he was already badly injured. The bottom line is: We don't know.
If Cin Drallig was so good, why didn't he use any of his great Soresu or Ataru skills to fend off Anakin?

Soresu does not push an enemy back. And how is Ataru going to stop Anakin from killing Bene? That's bullshit, even Mace wouldn't be able to stop Anakin in under 2 seconds.
He lost, quite quickly.

Yes, it does seem that way, but we don't know what the circumstances were - Drallig could have been hurt.
If he was anywhere near Obi-Wan's Soresu, he would have lasted about twelve seconds longer.

Unless he was injured.
And what we saw in the hologram is what we have to trust along with the ROTS novelization.

We saw nothing in the hologram, save Anakin blocking 2 of Drallig's swings at him. However, the script does say that Drallig went down pretty fast.
Yes, I admit Cin is very good, but I think Maul barely beats him.

I doubt it, until we know the condition Cin was in when he dueled Vader we can't say, though.

Just like Council#13 and I mentioned before, we don't have a great amount of information on Cin to pit him against Darth Maul. That's why I would agree it will be a close fight, but I believe Drallig loses, while Maul wins, vice versa for you. We can keep arguing over this, but the results going to end up the same.

Unless we find out that Cin did bad while fighting Anakin in ROTS b/c he was injured, but until then we'll call it an unknown.

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos

I can probably understand why Cin gets killed with one-hand. Now, this may be an understatement to Cin's powers, but he can't be much better, otherwise he's being very underated. Nick Gillard himself said his character in Star Wars is far weaker than what he should be.

Hey Quinlan, Can I get an official quote of that? I mean, Nick talking about his character?

http://www.theforce.net/videogames/story/Nick_Gillard_Talks_ROTS_Game_92147.asp

That is the link.

maul wins and thats it... but u know a ROTS anakin vs maul fight would be very interesting

Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
http://www.theforce.net/videogames/story/Nick_Gillard_Talks_ROTS_Game_92147.asp

That is the link.

Thanks Quinlan. Btw, I don't think your a dumbass. hug

For anyone who eas saying that Makashi died on Geonosis, you are wrong. According to Dooku, Tholme and other Jedi use Makashi.

Wow, which comic is that? Tholme is like one of my favorite characters, and I've always wanted to see him in action like that.

It's Star Wars Republic: Trackdown. I just started reading it earlier today and am now going to finish reading it. If I find anything good that Quinlan does in it I'm gonna post it at USW in the tourney thread. 🙂

Forget about Quinlan, Tholme is badass in it. Almost a match for Sora I'd say.

Not quite, he only escaped so easily due to his Azanti Training, but Tholme is quite badass. I'd put Sora slightly stonger than Maul and I'd put Tholme slightly below Qui-Gon, maybe on par with Kit, if not then just below him by a hair.

Well I am a bit of a Tholme fanboy, but he just seemed badass in that comic. More of a duelist like Count Dooku, and not too far from Sora Bulq although clearly the inferior. He seems really smart as well, that would be a + in a vs. fight.

Tholme's cool, he taught Quinlan.

Yeah, Tholme is neat.

Originally posted by Jen'ari
Well I am a bit of a Tholme fanboy, but he just seemed badass in that comic. More of a duelist like Count Dooku, and not too far from Sora Bulq although clearly the inferior. He seems really smart as well, that would be a + in a vs. fight.

Yeah, Tholme was extremely badass, I like that little Jedi, Tao, too, he seems to be just as strong if not stronger than Tholme (having seen both of them fight alot in that one comic with Volfe Karkko). I really like him, but when he walked away from Tholme after Tholme asked for his help I was like "b*tch". That pissed me off, together they would have been able to kill Sora for sure.