NBA discussion thread

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Originally posted by Myth
I love how the Cavs are finally trying to get a good PG. A couple of weeks ago they looked into Mike Bibby and now they are trying to work something out with the Nets and get Kidd.

I don't feel Marcus Williams is ready to lead the team. Hopefully, the trade deadline comes before they make a decision. Don't trade him, Rod. 🙁

Originally posted by wuTa
What if i did, you gonna do something over the internet about it?

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Where did this come from? Lemme guess....I'm an internet tuff guy.... 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Myth
I love how the Cavs are finally trying to get a good PG. A couple of weeks ago they looked into Mike Bibby and now they are trying to work something out with the Nets and get Kidd.

Where did you hear this?

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
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Where did this come from? Lemme guess....I'm an internet tuff guy.... 😆 😆 😆

You gotta be joking.

Originally posted by wuTa
Where did you hear this?

You gotta be joking.

I was thinking the same thing. 😆

Are you though?

Originally posted by wuTa
Where did you hear this?

The article is mainly about how the Lakers are trying for him but how the Cavs have also contacted the Nets.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112007/sports/nets/swamp_exodus_nets_peter_vecsey.htm?page=2

Btw, Gilbert's 50 point promise? 9 points off 3 for 15 😆

Kidd on the the Lakers!?!!?!?

Say it aint so 😱 😱 😱

Oh please let this happen.

Heat win. w00t

And the Sixers play Dallas, so we should be another game closer to Durant or Oden.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution

Are you though?

As much as you were.

Originally posted by Myth
The article is mainly about how the Lakers are trying for him but how the Cavs have also contacted the Nets.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112007/sports/nets/swamp_exodus_nets_peter_vecsey.htm?page=2

Btw, Gilbert's 50 point promise? 9 points off 3 for 15 😆

I think the Lakers would have to up give too much for him, after just rebuilding into a solid team. I don't know about the Cavs either, New Jersey really wouldn't get much in that deal.

Jason Kidd should go to Boston. Maybe then they might start winning a little, and then the Sixers can fall into last place again.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
Jason Kidd should go to Boston. Maybe then they might start winning a little, and then the Sixers can fall into last place again.

LOL^^^

I would be willing to give up Smush, a second rounder, and Turiaf for Kidd.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
LOL^^^

I would be willing to give up Smush, a second rounder, and Turiaf for Kidd.

Heeeeeeellllllll no! I'm not letting Kidd go for that! 😑

Originally posted by RecSpecs110
Heeeeeeellllllll no! I'm not letting Kidd go for that! 😑

What would you want from the Lakers for Kidd?

Originally posted by RecSpecs110
Heeeeeeellllllll no! I'm not letting Kidd go for that! 😑

I believe the idea is that there is fear that Vince will bolt and then Kidd won't be happy, so the Nets are looking to start over. So, you aren't going to get equal talent assuming that the Nets do make a trade, so going for salary and draft picks is probably the way to go.

F*ckin Ricky Davis.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
F*ckin Ricky Davis.

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Originally posted by RecSpecs110
Heeeeeeellllllll no! I'm not letting Kidd go for that! 😑

How about for Gooden, Eric Snow, and a 2nd rounder? Gooden is only 23 and Snow is a decent veteran than can work with Marcus Williams.

Scratch that, the salaries don't match. How about Hughes, Gibson (rookie starting PG), and Pollard for Kidd?

How about Pollard for Diener out of Orlando 😱

If that trade with cleveland is ever going to happen, I don't see how Gooden wouldn't be in the deal.

Alright, I was in a playful mood on ESPN's trade machine, and here is a trade I came up with:

Portland loses:
Magloire
Juan Dixon

Gains:
Scott Pollard
David Wesley
Bostjan Nachbar
Jason Collins

Why it works for Blazers: Magloire doesn't get the time he wants and Dixon is on the block simply because he hasn't fit well into the Blazer rotation. Nachbar and Wesley may fit nicely with the Blazers and its not like the Blazers are giving up too much. Pollard and Collins would be barried in the Portland bench with Pollard only under contract for 1 year. Collins is the biggest downside because of his fairly large contract and the Blazers needing to use him.

Nets lose:
Jason Kidd
Bostjan Nachbar
Jason Collins

Gain:
Larry Hughes
Daniel Gibson
Jamal Magloire

Why it works for the Nets: Kidd may not be a Net for too much longer anyway plus he old. They gain Hughes who isn't much needed since Carter is there, but Carter may bolt anyway and Hughes would be a decent guy to have at SG if that were to happen. Magloire would be an upgrade to Collins and he has one of the most wanted contracts in the league right now. If you lose Kidd, you want favorable contracts and this would be a good one. Gibson is a decent and very young PG which would be nice considering Nets lose their star PG.

Cavs lose:
Hughes
David Wesley
Scott Pollard
Daniel Gibson

Gain:
Kidd
Juan Dixon

Why it works for Cavs: Gaining Kidd is an obvious plus. With Hughes gone, the Cavs also need a SG, which they gain from the Blazers. Dixon usually comes in for the Blazers, hits some threes, and not much else, but Cavs still need 3s. He was even more effective with the Wizards so he may even become more effective than he has been for the Blazers.

Originally posted by wuTa

If that trade with cleveland is ever going to happen, I don't see how Gooden wouldn't be in the deal.

Salary wise, I don't see how Gooden could be in the deal. He makes $6.6 million. Kidd makes $18 million. That makes for a lot more Cavs would have to give up:

Hughes: $13.3mil
Big Z: $9.4mil
Snow: $6mil
Marshall: $5.6mil
D. Jones: $3.4mil
Pollard: $2.2mil
Newble: $3mil
Most others have contracts so tiny that they don't make up for much of the contract differences.

Maybe: Gooden, Snow, Jones and Pollard ($18.2mil), but is that what the Nets would want? I don't see much possible combinations without getting rid of multiple bigs and then the Cavs would be completely screwed down low.