Originally posted by David_Richards
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
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Okay, let's do it the way it's done in comics. Let's choose Marvel VS DC.
Nightwing and Cyclops are teleported in a distant planet and are ordered to fight to death. They are about ten feet away from eachother.
Who wins?
Originally posted by David_Richards
yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
If they wanted to make the fight realistic they would.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...Okay, let's do it the way it's done in comics. Let's choose Marvel VS DC.
Nightwing and Cyclops are teleported in a distant planet and are ordered to fight to death. They are about ten feet away from eachother.
Who wins?
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.
[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight. [/quote]
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.
[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
Originally posted by David_RichardsIf its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
Actually, it is realistic fight. We assess each characters strenghts and weaknesses, look at their past fights and feats IN COMICS and then, using those, debate how they would do in a straight fight. With no unfair preptime.
Again, something that you have difficulties to grasp.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
But in this case the prep time is part of NW's strengths and feats. The fact that hes able to sneak up on his opponent and take him out is part of the character.
If they were being true to the characters then yes they would.
And we continute to go in circles covering things we;ve talked about before. LOL
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
Weve been over this befoer in case you forgot, in this case a straight fight is nto a fair one for the reasons stated above.
LOL we have really argued the hell out of this. i think we've done it from every angle.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Weve been over this befoer in case you forgot, in this case a straight fight is nto a fair one for the reasons stated above.
It is fair, since both opponents have the same starting point and place.
Cyclops simply can beat Nightwing in a fair straight fight.
Nightwing needs to have unfair advantage over Cyclops to beat him. The advantage being that Cyclops does not KNOW that they are fighting. And that is fair fight to you?😂
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
Weve been over all of this before.
1. Its a REALISITIC fight.
2. your isnt fair becuase it ignores how NW was trained to take out his opponents.
And Blair Wind I could say the same thing to you.
I dont really know how to say this with smaller words, Its a bad match up where one of them has to have an unfair advantage.
Originally posted by David_Richards
Thats an unrealistic fight that favors only cyclops.[qoute]yes it does, the whole idea of a ninja or assassin is that you dotn see them comming. Its a tactic thats been used on cyclops more then once int he comics. Gauntlet did it in X-factor and he didnt use any special powers or anything he just snuck up and puched him in the back of the head. End of story.
If cyclops knows hes comming then its not a realistic fight. Cause Nightwing would be able to move without making a sound. and as ive stated before I dont care what others think. If a large group of people claim the moon is made of cheese it doesnt make it any more true ethier.
the exprssion "Rules were made to be broken" comes to mind. Sometimes Rules are made without taking into accoutn all conceivable circumstances therefor exceptions need to be made.
You want a situation that heavily favors cyclops.
I want one that does the same for Nightwing.
The difference is my way given how both people fight and were trained to fight is the more realistic one. Especially since people have used the same tactic to take Cyclops out before.
its a bad match up. lol
If its not doen the way it would be in the comics then its not a realistic fight.
And realistic to you is having cyclops win, Like I said we arent going to solve anything here cause we both believe to strongly in our sides of this. All this is, is just bickering.
And sure some people have like Deathstroke or batman himself or Azreal, Other BETTER trained Ninjas or assassins. Cyclops has training but not THAT kind of training.
Obviously Marvel would allow Cyclops to be defeated in that way since they have before.
We already covered this as well I dont care what others think. I dont base my beliefs on popular opinion
And you think anything that allows NW to win is unfair.