Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Prove that Beyonder wasent Omnisient than...

He made that statement after Doom took his power, so then he knew what desire was.


The Beyonder with actual omniscience would NEVER have made a mistake. Dr. Doom never would have been able to defeat him in the first Secret Wars series(yes I know that the Beyonder sent him back in the first place, but Doom still managed to get the jump on him), he never would have destroyed Death, and he never would have felt the need to experience desire in the first place(he would already understand it better than anyone).

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder is done. He isn't all powerful. He isn't even all knowing. He's one of the most powerful creatures in existance. But to God, that means nothing. The Lord Giveth and He taketh away. The beyonder is never even shown facing anything remotely Omnicient. He has defeated no one that someone else could not defeat.He's done nothing on panel, that someone else has not or could not.

Yeah to "God" it doesent matter if Beyonder is the most powerful "creature" (-as you formulated it). 😂

You give birth to a child, he grows up, is he unable to kill you? - No.
Are you able to unmake him? - No

Molecule man: ... Wait: Mr. Master, post that picture with the abstracts head and the satatement above that says that Beyonder was the most powerful being in existance...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Prove that Beyonder wasent Omnisient than...

He made that statement after Doom took his power, so then he knew what desire was.

Weren't you one of the people who said that Darkseid saying that he had Nearly infinite power wasn't good enough becuz it was the character talking about himself?

Originally posted by galan7777777
The Beyonder with actual omniscience would NEVER have made a mistake. Dr. Doom never would have been able to defeat him in the first Secret Wars series(yes I know that the Beyonder sent him back in the first place, but Doom still managed to get the jump on him), he never would have destroyed Death, and he never would have felt the need to experience desire in the first place(he would already understand it better than anyone).

... Obviously you haven't read the SW, Beyonder did that to learn Doom a lesson. He knew the outcome of it and give up his power for a period.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
... Obviously you haven't read the SW, Beyonder did that to learn Doom a lesson. He knew the outcome of it and give up his power for a period.
reply to everything in the post please

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Weren't you one of the people who said that Darkseid saying that he had Nearly infinite power wasn't good enough becuz it was the character talking about himself?

No... I said: Darkseid have nearly infinity power and Eternity had Infinity power.

If you think I'm wrong look up the topic and copy (ctrl + c) that quote and post it here.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No... I said: Darkseid have nearly infinity power and Eternity had Infinity power.

If you think I'm wrong look up the topic and copy (ctrl + c) that quote and post it here.

No, if I"m not mistaken, I was saying that Darkseid was beyond sky father in power lvl, and a scan was put up where he was talking about his avatars and infinite power. And you were one of the people that said that Darkseid talking about himself was not good enough.

Originally posted by galan7777777
reply to everything in the post please

What more do you need to know, your replyes are hard to understand.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
What more do you need to know, your replyes are hard to understand.
if he were truly omniscent as god himself is he never would have destroyed Death (he didnt know nothing could die if he did this), and he never would have felt the need to experience desire in the first place(he would already understand it better than anyone).
it that easier for you to understand?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No, if I"m not mistaken, I was saying that Darkseid was beyond sky father in power lvl, and a scan was put up where he was talking about his avatars and infinite power. And you were one of the people that said that Darkseid talking about himself was not good enough.

Each Darkseid avatar have a portion of True Darkseids power, which's limited.
Because, a portion (no matter how big portion it is) of infinity is infinity.
Thus, true Darkseids power is limited.
Eternity's power is unlimited.

Originally posted by galan7777777
if he were truly omniscent as god himself is he never would have destroyed Death (he didnt know nothing could die if he did this), and he never would have felt the need to experience desire in the first place(he would already understand it better than anyone).
it that easier for you to understand?

I understand, but you forumlate it so wierd only a few does.
He knew that nothing could die after he ereased Death.
Who knows he maybe killed her and remade her to brag about his power.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I understand, but you forumlate it so wierd only a few does.
He knew that nothing could die after he ereased Death.
Who knows he maybe killed her and remade her to brag about his power.
yes but he didnt know nothing would be able to die BEFORE he erased death, hence he was not truly omniscent, thank you that just proved my point.......and the part that u posted about kiling her to brag is speculation and oppinion, not fact

Originally posted by galan7777777
yes but he didnt know nothing would be able to die BEFORE he erased death, hence he was not truly omniscent, thank you that just proved my point.......and the part that u posted about kiling her to brag is speculation and oppinion, not fact

Well he knew that nothing would be able to die, but he didn't know that life would be pointless afterwards.

PS
I see that you copied my post from the other thread.

Originally posted by galan7777777
yes but he didnt know nothing would be able to die BEFORE he erased death, hence he was not truly omniscent, thank you that just proved my point.......and the part that u posted about kiling her to brag is speculation and oppinion, not fact

I leave this bait for Mr. Master.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well he knew that nothing would be able to die, but he didn't know that life would be pointless afterwards.

PS
I see that you copied my post from the other thread.

yeah i had the same belief lol, it was easier the typing it all over again....hope u dont mind 🙂

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I leave this bait for Mr. Master.
why? so he can finish your rediculous arguments for you AGAIN? 😆

P.S. just so you know, mr. master has already agreed that the beyonder wasnt truly omniscent as god is 😄

Originally posted by galan7777777
yeah i had the same belief lol, it was easier the typing it all over again....hope u dont mind 🙂

Naw, it's cool.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Each Darkseid avatar have a portion of True Darkseids power, which's limited.
Because, a portion (no matter how big portion it is) of infinity is infinity.
Thus, true Darkseids power is limited.
Eternity's power is unlimited.

Your missing what I"m saying. You said that HIm talking about himself was not proof of his power becuz people can hyperbole themselves. So What i'm saying is, the beyonder could have been playing himself. He could have thought he was God only becuz he hadn't met anyone who could beat him. IN actuality, He never EVER met TOAA.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The presence is bad ass. He does look kinda crazy. But I guess that's to illustrate just how powerful he is. He smacked the spectre around like it was a joke. He seems to have everything in control at all times. ANd does what he wants when he wants without question. or even any rationalizing.
yeah, when he was portrayed in the lucifer series he looked normal, and i liked him much better that way lol!

First error - Presence didn't know: http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/67...ctre6102do2.jpg

Thies he isnt omnisient.

- For those who don't get it:
Presence: Amy, was she in heaven too?