Originally posted by Draco69
No. He'll fight to the best of his ability and in within his intelligence,
But not in character.
Originally posted by Draco69
You're already seem to have knack of invalidating logic and validating PIS/CIS feats.If you can't seem to grasp the forum's rules then leave and go back to SHC...
You refuse to acknowledge WW's speed despite her showing superspeed numerous times.
You refuse to acknowledge WW's skill citing she doesn't use that well against high-tier characters when she clearly does.
You're nitpicking and being an ass....
No, I'm acknowledging who the character is, not who fanboys want the character to be.
Powerset debates are not in character. If that's how you debate, why would you even bother to debate a topic pitting a character with superspeed against one without? You strip the character from the combatants and use their powers how you want them to be used.
Originally posted by Draco69
No. According to your warped logic, Batman would somehow dodge the clap, hypnotize the Hulk into submission and use a sleeping gas to put him to sleep.Hey, after all it happens in comics....
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Can't say that I recall Batman dodging a thunderclap. Maybe it's in that issue where Wonder Woman batters a guy a hundred times in a second.
Originally posted by Draco69
Because it's all they have and the writers make them seem worthwhile when they use their skill to illogically defeat characters they shouldn't.
So, IOW, they're all out of character unless they're fighting in a manner inconsistent with how they're portrayed in the stories.
You want to talk stupid? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
Originally posted by Draco69
You would be wrong.
You haven't been defending the idea that Wonder Woman would punch someone a hundred times a second?
Originally posted by Draco69
You obviously ignored the scan below...🙄
Not at all. I saw it. I saw her hit a guy fast. Not a hundred times a second. And nothing I haven't seen Spider-Man do.
Originally posted by Draco69
Hardly. I'm saying we should regard Wonder Woman's powerset to her character or rather her intelligence, skill with her powers and tactical way of fighting. As an Amazon warrior, using her abilities to the best of her abilities, she would hold nothing back. She would go in for the kill. That means speedblitzing the green Gumby.
You're saying we should regard Wonder Woman's powerset as if it's possessed by someone else who would use it the way you want it to be used.
Originally posted by Draco69
Stop being so purposefully stupid. You're not as dumb as you seem. You're purposefully covering your ears to anything that remotely makes sense.
Stupid is calling all (or at least the majority) of a character's appearances out of character.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
But not in character.
You don't even know what the correct terminology of "character" means...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
No, I'm acknowledging who the character is, not who fanboys want the character to be.
You're disregarding not only her character, which by forum rules is entitled as intelligence, skill, and tactical prowess, but would also like to pretend her superspeed either doesn't exist or she doesn't want to use for some reason you've yet to give...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Powerset debates are not in character.
This is not a powerset debate. This is a debate about a character who knows how to use her powers efficently and ruthlessly. Where you got the idea that this was purely based on powers and not her intellect and skill is beyond me...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
If that's how you debate, why would you even bother to debate a topic pitting a character with superspeed against one without?
Because I'm personally offended of abrassive stupidity....
Originally posted by Jonathanos
You strip the character from the combatants and use their powers how you want them to be used.
YOU strip characters of their powers and claim that they won't use it even though they use it regularly but not often in the way you would like.
Apparently you acknowledge WW will run fast but not punch fast. Which is just stupid...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Can't say that I recall Batman dodging a thunderclap. Maybe it's in that issue where Wonder Woman batters a guy a hundred times in a second.
No, it's a Jeph Loeb issue....
Originally posted by Jonathanos
o, IOW, they're all out of character unless they're fighting in a manner inconsistent with how they're portrayed in the stories.
No, they're using PIS not CIS. CIS implies they don't know who to use their skills correctly. They shouldn't be able to knock out high-tier characters like Namor by just ninja-kicking them. That's PIS...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
You want to talk stupid? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
If awhile to you means since the last time you've heard your own voice...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
You haven't been defending the idea that Wonder Woman would punch someone a hundred times a second?
I've said in the second or third page I was exaggerating the "a million times in a nanosecond" statement to make my point of how WW could blitz Hulk rather effortlessly. Even Flash would have some difficulty blitzing a person a million times in a nanosecond.
However a hundred times a second. It's within her power. She's certainly warrior enough to do it. There's no CIS that would prevent her from doing so. Only PIS.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Not at all. I saw it. I saw her hit a guy fast. Not a hundred times a second. And nothing I haven't seen Spider-Man do.
And that's not enough for you to at least make the acknowledgement she can blitz the Hulk. Even if she was going Spider-Man fast, that's enough to take the Hulk down with her level of strength.
Seriously. THINK. She can move faster than sound. If she's in bloodlust and not holding back like she was against that poor sap she would make those fists a flurry hit Mach 3...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
You're saying we should regard Wonder Woman's powerset as if it's possessed by someone else who would use it the way you want it to be used.
No. I'm saying we should logically conclude what a character would do with his/her powerset provided he/she had the intellect, skill and tactical prowess to use it efficently in a bloodlusted battle.
Which means that WW's blitzing the bastard.
YOU on the other hand is saying that we should ignore WW's speed, her skill, her warrior do or did mindset, her tactical prowess, her reflexes, and her intellect because YOU want it to be that way...
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Stupid is calling all (or at least the majority) of a character's appearances out of character.
Stupid is assuming that CIS is PIS.
A difference you STILL don't get...
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Originally posted by bigbran
Why did this thread get past the second page?
Shit!!
Wonder Woman 9/10, if Hulk's lucky, I'de give him 8/10.
I have no idea.
See, Jonathanos? You're outnumbered on the people who agree with you.
Except Golem. You can keep him on your side. He's like the Glick the Space Monkey from Superfriends...