Professor Hulk vs Wonder Woman in a fist fight

Oh yes he is

Here's some help Draco.
The Hulkbuster armour (on panel) stated that he was only a 125 tonner.
And they fought to a standstill.
Same with Wonderman, who also fought Hulk(prof) to basically a standstill. Plus Wonderman wasn't even pissed.

Like Zzzax smart *** he hit him

Originally posted by golem370
You mean like between 300 and 700mph. It didn't stop him from sluggin it out with Drax the Destroyer or Gladiator given that wasn't Professor Hulk

Originally posted by bigbran
Here's some help Draco.
The Hulkbuster armour (on panel) stated that he was only a 125 tonner.
And they fought to a standstill.
Same with Wonderman, who also fought Hulk(prof) to basically a standstill. Plus Wonderman wasn't even pissed.

125 tons?! Why the hell would Golem think that....

Agh!

And Hulkbuster actually didn't manage to get destroyed when facing Professor Hulk.

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Originally posted by Draco69
And his second and third fight. He speedblitzed the bastard. What's your point?

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That he doesn't speedblitz from the word go, either. Even when he's getting his teeth kicked down his throat after a long series of battles.

Originally posted by Draco69
Yet you say he wouldn't do the same against the Hulk. No. He would fight on the ground, using human-like speed against the Hulk.

Strawman.

Originally posted by Draco69
What rule? What rule states that Superman or Wonder Woman will suddenly forget their superspeed when fighting an opponent on this forum?

How the hell can Superman and Wonder Woman fight at their VERY best but...not use their superspeed or in WW's case not her skill and speed?

Yeah. Bullsh*t...

The rule as in the norm, not as in a forum rule. Learn context.

Originally posted by Draco69
And yet WW can't even though she's nearly as strong as Superman and has superspeed to?

What ARE you smoking?

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I don't think she'll quite get the majority, no.

Originally posted by Draco69
I don't need a match. The noxious fumes of the bullsh*t you're polluting this thread with is flammable to plain ol' oxygen...

Sorry, not everyone can deal out pearls like "Most of Wonder Woman's appearances are out of character. What I say, which is contrary to how she behaves in the comics, is what is in-character."

Originally posted by Draco69
Than OBVIOUSLY his solar batteries were charged to a point where a single blow allowed him to strike WW from the Sun to the Earth in under two minutes...

I missed the point where I said he wasn't strong enough to do what he did. Point it out?

I don't think he was intended to be boosted as much as you want to believe. I wouldn't have a problem with Superman doing that normally.

Originally posted by Draco69
Is Flash likely to do it in a comic (He HAS by the way...)? No. He IS willin g to kill if sufficently provocated however.

In a forum battle where he's fighting an opponent to the death and he's fighting to very best of his ability? Hell yes.

To the best of his ability, but within his character. I'm not going to use a low- or high-end showing for Flash. I'll use what is within his abilities and how he uses them.

Originally posted by Draco69
Character implies intelligence, skill and how tactically a person battles in combat when they are fighting to the max.

Wonder Woman "thinks and behaves" like a warrior. She's absolutely willing to kill if necessary. She doesn't hold back like Superman if provocated enough and she uses her abilities efficently in correspondence to her character (intellect, skill, and tactics).

There's absolutely NOTHING in WW's character that implies she wouldn't use her superspeed against an opponent. Not her intelligence. Not her skill. Not her tactics. And certainly not the way she thinks and behaves. 😬

If there's nothing in her character that says she wouldn't use her speed in the manner you say, you'll have no trouble showing her doing exactly what you claim.

Originally posted by Draco69
Oh please. How the hell would Hulk perceive an lightspeed energy beam, much less break it?

A sustained energy beam, like Iron Man's repulsors. Hulk has grabbed hold of energy as if it was a physical object. HULK #242. I'm not interested in silliness like that as a serious response.

Originally posted by Draco69
We think logically. We use the character's powersets, character implying skill, intelligence and tactics, and spatial reasoning to conclude who would win between characters.

If you're not mature enough to understand this simple concept than keeping posting that Wolverine will pawn Magneto because he can sneak up on Wolverine like he does in comics in the Cartoon Network forum...

I'm not the one getting all upset. Nor am I the one who confuses fanboy tactics with in character behavior.

Originally posted by Draco69
This we take seriously because it makes complete sense. (certainly not that number though.)

It's within her power. It's within her intelligence. It's within her skill. It's within her tactics. And it's certainly how an Amazon with superspeed would act if she was going all out...

If it's in her tactics, show her DOING it.

Originally posted by Draco69
Do you know what S stands for? STUPIDITY. You're making a habit of practicing it....

Character Induced Stupidity. When a character performs an illogical, stupid or dumbass action because of the following A) they are genuinely stupid (i.e. Absorbing Man) B) They have a psychological condition that prevents them from using their powers like they should (i.e. Rogue; she refuses to use her absorbing powers unless it's absolutely last resort) C) they don't have the appropiate skill or knowledge of their powers to use their powers as effectively as they should (i.e. Iceman. He STILL doesn't know jack about using his powers correctly...) D) A moral code or honor code that they consciously project upon themselves therefore limiting themselves to using their powers by limitations (i.e. Superman; fear of killing his opponent by which he bypasses it if he is sure his opponent can take it/ Storm; fear of disrupting the delicate balance of nature/ Human Torch; keeping his tempature down to safe levels that won't kill everyone around him/Professor X; finds using his telepathy for harm a breach of his morals.)

Character Induced.

Her character is not one that batters someone a hundred times a second.

You think that's a stupid way to fight? It's character induced.

Originally posted by Draco69
YES!

Good boy!

You like so many, have once again, misdefined CIS and PIS.

There's nothing that Flash displays as CIS to use his powers ineffectively against his Rogues and somehow get tagged by boomerangs is not because he's stupid or he doesn't know how to use his powers.

It's called PIS. Read the rules. Tron specifically uses this example as a example of PIS.

All Flash comics would last a pixel of ink if Flash weren't held down by PIS.

Same with Superman, Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel. Except they would last about 6 pixels....

That's just sad. You clearly don't understand what character is.

Originally posted by Draco69
Depends on the Hulk. CIS would apply to some Hulks. PIS to others.

And you're trying to sound sarcastic but you're actually saying the right thing in accordance to forum rules.

After all that military head is gonna fire a plot-device gamma-sucking missle later on in the arc....

The military has long had gamma weapons. Just taking a stab at it, I suspect that it may be because they had Bruce Banner working for them.

The only Hulk who would do what I suggest is Byrne's animalistic creature.

So Ross is alive not because of PIS but because of CIS, if you really think it's stupid for the Hulk to have morals.

Originally posted by Draco69
WW is far faster than a jet. She's outsped jets since #2 of her post-crisis inception. Even Thangarian fighter jets.

Yeah, and Hulk's overtaken ICBMs with leaps, but I would suggest that Hulk's going to leap in excess of the speed of sound at an opponent. Because he simply doesn't do it.

Originally posted by Draco69
And can jets think and react as fast as they fly? No.

Hulk won't capture WW when she's speedblitzing him because A) she'll dodge any clumsy attempt to capture her and B) unlike a fighter jet, Hulk will be moving in relative slow-motion to her allowing her to parry, dodge or counter any of his attacks.

Must be why she doesn't ever get hit by non-speedsters. EVER.

Originally posted by Draco69
Because her comic has to last 32 pages and she has to lasso something at least once a page.

If she did this for every battle, than WW would come out in bubble gum wrappers....

It's called PIS.

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For the plot, ya know?

I'm still cracking up over your assertion that the way she behaves in continuity is out of character.

Originally posted by Draco69
700 mph.

No, I'm joking.

Are you f***ing kidding me? You actually want numbers? You're actually nitpicking the feat stating that she was moving slower than Spider-Man?

Jesus Christ.

I don't even know where to begin.

She's clearly punching the guy at greater than normal speeds since she's leaving the atypical afterimages of superspeed.

And you have the gall to state that she MAY be going slower than Spider-Man?

She can run faster than sound but in your screwed-up world she can punch slower than Spider-Man?

It's a viable feat for a speedblitz. Even in the .01 out a million chance she's going slower than Spider-Man, she can, uh I don't know, increase her punching speed.....

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God....

Yes, I want numbers. You made the claim. Support it. I've seen Spider-Man do that with his relatively minor superspeed. I've seen multiple images from Daredevil.

I'm granting that she's fast. I'm not granting that she was hitting the guy a hundred times per second.

Originally posted by bigbran
Here's some help Draco.
The Hulkbuster armour (on panel) stated that he was only a 125 tonner.
And they fought to a standstill.
Same with Wonderman, who also fought Hulk(prof) to basically a standstill. Plus Wonderman wasn't even pissed.

Are you bring up a crossover because Superman was getting whipped by Venom and Lobo buy Wolverine

Originally posted by golem370
Like Zzzax smart *** he hit him

Zzzax is made of physical energy. Energy can be "hit" if the psi behind is strong enough.

Firestorm and Captain Atom literally phase out of their respective realities....

He also fought Pitt to

I was also talking about Savage Hulk not Professor Hulk.

Originally posted by Draco69
Well, I tend to think logically. WW has superspeed. She's gonna use it. The Hulk won't be able to hit someone's who is freakishly faster than him and can deflect/dodge faster than sound machine gun fire...BLIND. Any blow that manages to connect will be deflected by her bracelets.

Ignoring her speed because you want it to isn't viable to me. It doesn't make sense.....

Hulk's tagged a 175mph Quicksilver and 300mph Speed Demon. None anywhere near Diana's speed.

Again, if WW were stripped of her speed/reflexes and she had only her strength and durability and skill, she would lose the majority to the Hulk unless she really poured it on.

1- The two questions should be, does she always use speed from the get go? And when she does, what is the level she uses? It should be honest questions to be considered especially when she hardly uses speedblitz in the first place and not at such a high rate. And you know it.

2- Ignoring the fact slower guys can tag faster guys doesnt seem viable to me either, whatever they use it often or not. Is that viable that Diana using some speed around him wont EVER get tagged, when Flash and countless others do? Not likely.

3- Color me strange, but again, isent THAT the question asked? Fist by fist who takes it? You already answered from what it seems.

Originally posted by golem370
He also fought Pitt to

Originally posted by Accel
Fighting people to a standstill is what he does. He did the same with a Thor equivalent and Drax the Destroyer.

Originally posted by golem370
Are you bring up a crossover because Superman was getting whipped by Venom and Lobo buy Wolverine

Originally posted by bigbran
The 2 bigges jobbers on a Thor level? You do realize, that the Supes one wasn't canon, and Wolverine already has a massive jobbing aura. Just imagine, a fan voted crossover....

And beat Champion

Originally posted by Draco69
125 tons?! Why the hell would Golem think that....

Agh!

And Hulkbuster actually didn't manage to get destroyed when facing Professor Hulk.

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Originally posted by Draco69
I have no idea.

See, Jonathanos? You're outnumbered on the people who agree with you.

Except Golem. You can keep him on your side. He's like the Glick the Space Monkey from Superfriends...

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
No need to insult the guy; Maybe your nervous? I don't think Wonder Woman , could manhandle the Avengers the way that Hulk has done before. Also if Hulk can battle Thor, he would be able to win his share against the princess. This fight could go either way. 50/50 Unless the Amazon can pull a Doc Sampson one puncher knock out ..............

And the Doc Samson punch happened when Hulk didn't see it coming, and when he didn't want to fight.

Originally posted by golem370
And beat Champion

Originally posted by Accel
Other than his scuffle with She-Hulk, what makes Drax a jobber? He's held his own against Thanos, Thor, the Surfer, etc. Not to mention Norvell doesn;t exactly have a ton of moments to for one to call him a jobber.

Oh I thought you were talking about Glads.
Did Norvell like drop the hammer on his hand, and Hulk couldn't pick it up?( I know what your going to say, and, DON"T! I know WW couldn't pick it up either, or wait, ya she could) I'm proably wrong. But anyway, Hulk still stalemated him.