Got this off the net. It seems to confirm what I have been saying that the Bible already affirms.
This article is easier to read from the link though.
http://www.bcmmin.org/create.html
There are more spaces and what not between paragraphs and clauses.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Oh really? So clearly you understood what was going on - did you course include a module on... evolution?Did you, like a crusading Chick tract reader, trounce the lecture drawing from scientific theory and proof on the subject? Did he threaten to throw you into jail because of your Bible having a rebutal to every bit of evidence presented?
Yes it did include a module on evolution but the instructor saved it for the end. I guess she did not want to lose any students to dropping in the beginnning (seriously).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why then did she save it for the very last month or two weeks (I don't really remember how much time remained in the semester).
Speaking from the courses I have done it could be for any number of reasons - but it is highly unlikely to be the one you described, unless it is a problem over there that students get all funny and drop classes for stupid reasons.
First of all - focus of subject? Was it biology in general or was the focusing theme to it? If not then evolution might have been just another component.
Secondly - evolution isn't always simple. Depending on the nature of the course it isn't uncommon to save the more difficult parts for later in order to allow students to get to grips with the terminology and under lying theories - generally why in med school they make you do theory before they drop you in to treat real people. If this is a first year class, then it is quite understandable. A fourth year class? By rights if it was focused on evolution one should be ready to jump right in.
Thirdly - it might not have been appropriate sooner - this could be if guest speakers were involved (I know we sometimes get guest speakers and they are usually booked months in advance), equipment, other classes doing similar, if essays will be based upon it and require specialist markers etc.
Age of lecturer - true in my tutorials some of the ones that take them are PHD students teaching as part of the PHD - they pace themselves in order to get to grips with things as well. Once again they are unlikely to jump in to the most difficult ones initially.
Nature of institution - Is this you normal scientific/academic insitute or is it religious in nature? Because I know that religious collages can be odd in the things they give preference to.
And so on.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You do a great job of answering all of my questions to my satisfaction, thanks. I must commend you on that. But sometimes you overwhelm me and go overboard though (laughs).[B]Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.Can you say, "death knell ladies and gentlemen?"
God created the things which are seen (matter, energy, etc.) from things which are in-visible. In other words, God created the universe and everything in it out of nothing...
It just doesn't get any plainer than that. [/B]
Is energy visible? E=MC^2 if you remember. Matter is energy moving at a differing speed. Matter is the invisible made visible explained through E=MC^2. God made the things that are seen out of the unseen, not out of nothing.
Originally posted by Regret
Is energy visible? E=MC^2 if you remember. Matter is energy moving at a differing speed. Matter is the invisible made visible explained through E=MC^2. God made the things that are seen out of the unseen, not out of nothing.
I may have to revise a statement that I made for sake of clarity. Here is what I said:
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You do a great job of answering all of my questions to my satisfaction, thanks. I must commend you on that. But sometimes you overwhelm me and go overboard though (laughs).Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.Can you say, "death knell ladies and gentlemen?"
God created the things which are seen (matter, energy, etc.) from things which are in-visible. In other words, God created the universe and everything in it out of nothing...
It just doesn't get any plainer than that.
I said that God created…out of nothing. Here is what Hebrews 11:3 actually reveals:
Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
What this says is that things which are seen (matter, electrical energy, etc) were not made (created) of things which are visible. Matter is visible not invisible Regret. Even atoms (the smallest units of matter can be seen with the right microscope).
So what God is saying is that matter and so forth were not made of pre-existent matter they were made out of something that did not previously exist.
Furthermore, when I spoke of energy Regret I was not referring to kinetic or potential energy. I was referring to the "state" or "form" of electrical energy per se without reference to its motion or potential for motion.
Also, I got this off the net. It seems to confirm what I have been saying that the Bible already affirms.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThis is an interpretation, can you see energy? Not always. Man wrote the Bible, and the men writing the Bible could not see energy.I may have to revise a statement that I made for sake of clarity. Here is what I said:
I said that God created…out of nothing. Here is what Hebrews 11:3 actually reveals:
[B]Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.What this says is that things which are seen (matter, electrical energy, etc) were not made (created) of things which are visible. Matter is visible not invisible Regret. Even atoms (the smallest units of matter can be seen with the right microscope).
So what God is saying is that matter and so forth were not made of pre-existent matter they were made out of something that did not previously exist.
Furthermore, when I spoke of energy Regret I was not referring to kinetic or potential energy. I was referring to the "state" or "form" of electrical energy per se without reference to its motion or potential for motion. So what God is saying is that matter and so forth were not made of pre-existent matter they were made out of something that did not exist.
Also, Got this off the net. It seems to confirm what I have been saying that the Bible already affirms.
Your statement takes a large amount of liberty in interpretation, and is based in what you want God to have done, not necessarily what he did.
Originally posted by Regret
This is an interpretation, can [b]you see energy? Not always. Man wrote the Bible, and the men writing the Bible could not see energy.Your statement takes a large amount of liberty in interpretation, and is based in what you want God to have done, not necessarily what he did. [/B]
Yes I can see energy. An explosion is a visible manifestation of kinetic energy. A bomb has potential energy that is converted to kinetic energy once the fuse is lit. And yes, this is visible. So yes I can see energy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYou do not see the energy, you see the reaction of materials present to energy.
Yes I can see energy. An explosion is a visible manifestation of kinetic energy. A bomb has potential energy that is converted to kinetic energy once the fuse is lit. And yes, this is visible. So yes I can see energy.
Originally posted by Regret
You do not see the energy, you see the reaction of materials present to energy.
You think that I cannot see energy huh? Well, I beg to differ. Are not light and heat representative forms of energy? Indeed they are.
You know what I will take it a step and further and affirm that I can both see and feel energy as well. How about them apples friend? Light can be seen and heat can be felt. Both light and heat are forms of energy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveMatter is also a representative form of energy. No, you cannot see energy in its pure form.
You think that I cannot see energy huh? Well, I beg to differ. Are not light and heat representative forms of energy? Indeed they are.You know what I will take it a step and further and affirm that I can both see and feel energy as well. How about them apples friend? Light can be seen and heat can be felt. Both light and heat are forms of energy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveNo, I did, you are dancing around the subject, and going into semantics to alter the direction of the discussion.
But you did not say that in the beginning you simply asked me if I could see energy and I said essentially that I can do better: for I can see and feel energy.
Originally posted by Regret
No, I did, you are dancing around the subject, and going into semantics to alter the direction of the discussion.
There you go falsely accusing me again. I don't evade questions, I stand toe-to-toe and respond to what is asked of me. Here is what you said Regret:
Originally posted by Regret
This is an interpretation, can [b]you see energy? Not always. Man wrote the Bible, and the men writing the Bible could not see energy.Your statement takes a large amount of liberty in interpretation, and is based in what you want God to have done, not necessarily what he did. [/B]
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes I can see energy. An explosion is a visible manifestation of kinetic energy. A bomb has potential energy that is converted to kinetic energy once the fuse is lit. And yes, this is visible. So yes I can see energy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You think that I cannot see energy huh? Well, I beg to differ. Are not light and heat representative forms of energy? Indeed they are.You know what I will take it a step and further and affirm that I can both see and feel energy as well. How about them apples friend? Light can be seen and heat can be felt. Both light and heat are forms of energy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But you did not say that in the beginning you simply asked me if I could see energy and I said essentially that I can do better: for I can see and feel energy.
If that is dancing around a subject then I must be Fred Astaire.