Circular Reasoning?

Started by Regret21 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There you go falsely accusing me again. I don't evade questions, I stand toe-to-toe and respond to what is asked of me. Here is what you said Regret:

If that is dancing around a subject then I must be Fred Astaire.

Dancing around a subject is not leaving the subject but avoiding responding directly to the statement, such is what you have done.

Now. You cannot see energy in its pure, non-matter, form. Thus the Bible does not necessitate an interpretation stating that God creating from nothing.

Originally posted by Regret
Dancing around a subject is not leaving the subject but avoiding responding directly to the statement, such is what you have done.

Now. You cannot see energy in its pure, non-matter, form. Thus the Bible does not necessitate an interpretation stating that God creating from nothing.

Still don't get it. What have I done?

Question: have you perused this link yet?

http://www.bcmmin.org/create.html

I have furnished it a few times even in one of my direct posts to you. I have previously stated that it seems to confirm what the Bible already affirms, and what I have been saying all along.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Still don't get it. What have I done?

Question: have you perused this link yet?

http://www.bcmmin.org/create.html

I have furnished it a few times even in one of my direct posts to you. I have previously stated that it seems to confirm what the Bible already affirms, and what I have been saying all along.

Do you not understand that the bible was written by man?

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Do you not understand that the bible was written by man?

I understand that I have repeatedly stated that the Bible was given by inspiration of God (i.e. it is God-breathed). Furthermore, I understand that I have already posted this article concerning the divine origin of the Bible:

The Holy Bible

2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21; Matthew 12:26 (Book of Moses); Luke 3:4 (Book of the words of Isaiah the prophet); Luke 20:42 (Book of Psalms); Acts 7:42 (Book of the prophets); Galatians 3:10 (Book of the law);

The Holy Bible-the Word of God-is/was given by inspiration of God (i.e. God-breathed). The word Bible is derived from, or comes from the Greek word Biblos, which means, "a written book, a roll, or a scroll." So the word book in the Bible can mean or refer to a roll or a scroll.

The Bible is a library of 66 different books that were written over a period of approximately 1600 years (from 1500 B.C. to A.D. 100). It was written by more than 40 different writers or authors who were inspired by God to write.

The Bible is divided into what is called, the Old Testament, and the New Testament. The word testament can refer to or mean a compact, covenant, or will that a person draws up to dispose of their earthly possessions before they die. So the Old Testament (compact or
covenant) has 39 books (written approximately 1500 B.C. to A.D. 100).

The New Testament (compact, covenant, or will) has 27 books (written approximately A.D. 45 to 100).

The Old Testament was written mostly in the Hebrew language, but with some Aramaic portions. The New Testament was written in Greek.
Councils of rabbis, Jewish elders, and church leaders collected, arranged, and recognized the books of the Bible as SACRED AUTHORITY, based on careful guidelines.

God is fully aware that His Word was written or rather recorded by men. He is the One who inspired them to write His Word, and to make sure that the accuracy and integrity of His Word was preserved and kept safe for us today.

The Bible was copied very accurately by hand before the printing press was invented. Special scribes (those who were educated in the Law of Moses and other sacred Scriptures) developed complex methods of counting words and letters to insure that
no errors had been made.

The Old Testament was originally written on stone, clay, or leather (approx. 1500 B.C. to 400 B.C.). The New Testament was written on papyrus (a plant material) approximately A.D. 45 to 100. Some copies of the Bible were printed on luxurious, expensive, and fine quality animal skins called vellum (scraped calf or antelope skin), and sheep or goat skins called parchment. These skins were used for over 1,000 years
to make copies of the Bible approximately A.D. 300 to 1400.

So I said all that to say this:

God has made His Word available to us and through the instrumentality of 40 different authors over a period of 1600 years. Some were prophets, some were shepherds, some were professionals (Luke was a physician), some were businessmen (some of the apostles were fishermen), some were highly educated, some were commoners. But the point is that All Scripture (from Genesis up to and including Revelation) is God's Word. God has chosen to intersperse details throughout His Word perhaps so that we could see a common thread among all the Books of the Bible. This metaphorical thread is God's signature as it were to us that the Bible is indeed His Word. There is remarkable continuity of theme from beginning to end and this flow and congruency strengthens the case that holy men of God spoke (and wrote) as they were moved and inspired by the Holy Spirit, and that the Bible, the holy Scriptures are indeed the Word of God which lives and abides forever.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Still don't get it. What have I done?

Question: have you perused this link yet?

http://www.bcmmin.org/create.html

I have furnished it a few times even in one of my direct posts to you. I have previously stated that it seems to confirm what the Bible already affirms, and what I have been saying all along.

I have not, and probably will not peruse it. It confirms nothing, it is only someone as deluded as yourself as to an interpretation of Biblical text. The Bible does not "affirm" your views, your views are merely interpretations based on the Biblical text that extrapolate overly much on extremely small amounts of informative text. If I wanted someone else's opinion on the subject I would apply the question to the various search engines out there and read the various sites dedicated to such, but no, I am interested in the views and reasoning of people that have not dedicated their lives to the proving of their personal beliefs.

Originally posted by Regret
I have not, and probably will not peruse it. It confirms nothing, it is only someone as deluded as yourself as to an interpretation of Biblical text. The Bible does not "affirm" your views, your views are merely interpretations based on the Biblical text that extrapolate overly much on extremely small amounts of informative text. If I wanted someone else's opinion on the subject I would apply the question to the various search engines out there and read the various sites dedicated to such, but no, I am interested in the views and reasoning of people that have not dedicated their lives to the proving of their personal beliefs.

I didn't know the truth was that painful for you. Did it go oops upside your head (just kidding). I have never seen you this agitated before. I would've just said no I didn't peruse it and left it at that.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't know the truth was that painful for you. Did it go oops upside your head (just kidding). I have never seen you this agitated before. I would've just said no I didn't peruse it and left it at that.
My response was not agitated.

Edit: The purpose of my extended post was to hopefully cause more consideration when posting other people's work in response to my statements, and thereby avoid future wastes of your time in posting them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't know the truth was that painful for you. Did it go oops upside your head (just kidding). I have never seen you this agitated before. I would've just said no I didn't peruse it and left it at that.

Don't confuse people standing up against lies with victory.
Even Regret stands up against your lies.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't know the truth was that painful for you. Did it go oops upside your head (just kidding). I have never seen you this agitated before. I would've just said no I didn't peruse it and left it at that.

Your ignorance is simply mindboggling...as is your self-confidence and misplaced assurance in your answers.

I hope for your sake, that one day, you will realise what a fool you are.

Originally posted by Alliance
Your ignorance is simply mindboggling...as is your self-confidence and misplaced assurance in your answers.

I hope for your sake, that one day, you will realise what a fool you are.

Be careful he has a persecution complex, he will consider your post as conformation of his belief.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Be careful he has a persecution complex, he will consider your post as conformation of his belief.
It's an interesting thing this "persecution complex" of his. It confirms his beliefs if he is the one persecuted, but when he persecutes another's beliefs the persecution is not held as confirmation of them by him...

Originally posted by Regret
It's an interesting thing this "persecution complex" of his. It confirms his beliefs if he is the one persecuted, but when he persecutes another's beliefs the persecution is not held as confirmation of them by him...

I never even used the word persecution in my last post to you. So where did this whole persecution complex lie come from? I was talking about you seeming agitated. I didn't say anything about me being persecuted.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I never even used the word persecution in my last post to you. So where did this whole persecution complex lie come from? I was talking about you seeming agitated. I didn't say anything about me being persecuted.
I was responding to Shaky there. You attack various people's beliefs, and it could be said that you are persecuting them. Given this, perhaps your persecution is a confirmation of their beliefs for them.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Be careful he has a persecution complex, he will consider your post as conformation of his belief.

Its not my fault he's mentally insane. People always pursue the elimination of radicals from society. He has insane ideas and is a dangerous to society. Desiring the elimination of such views is not persecution, its protection, and helpful to the vast majority.

Originally posted by Regret
I was responding to Shaky there.

But it was in reference to me.

Originally posted by Regret
It's an interesting thing this "persecution complex" of his. It confirms his beliefs if he is the one persecuted, but when he persecutes another's beliefs the persecution is not held as confirmation of them by him...

This sounds like you are talking about me. Now, what you call an attack I characterize as a refutation. I refute your beliefs, I do not attack them. Learn the difference. To me an attack would be saying that your belief is dumb, stupid, and so forth just because I think so. I have never said that. If I disagreed with you about something I have backed that disbelief by the Bible. Do you follow me?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But it was in reference to me.
Actually it was in reference to your statements in the past. Referring to the concept that if the "world", in your eyes, hates you, that you are thus one of those referred to by the verses that state "if the world hate you" or similar.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
This sounds like you are talking about me. Now, what you call an attack I characterize as a refutation. I refute your beliefs, I do not attack them. Learn the difference. To me an attack would be saying that your belief is dumb, stupid, and so forth just because I think so. I have never said that. If I disagreed with you about something I have backed that disbelief by the Bible. Do you follow me?
Yes, only to correct your statement, you do not back your disbelief by the Bible, you back it by your interpretation of the Bible.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But it was in reference to me.

Not really. I was talking to Alliance about what he said to you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But it was in reference to me.

Someone is paranoid. A little insecure are we?