Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
but the one shown residing over the superposed Deity's of the marvel universe,
Don't worry I have the scans, I always have the scans.
From X-Men Forever.
It was this fallacy that got that rumor started. (wonder by who?)
On the Scan that never existed....
let me break it down for you.
Scan 1:
Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to US....
Already proved this many times over...Phoenix is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which ends life and begins life in said Universe.
Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestial were created by Eternity.
Scan 2:
Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."
NOTHING about Phoenix.
"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)
"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...
Ok, I'm sure you see now that the Stranger WANTS to BE ABLE to do..what Humans WILL BE ABLE to do one day.
(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...
because one day WE (Humans), will NOT need the Abstracts or even the Living Tribunal...
they will be as NOTHING to US (Humans).
"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."
How does he PLAN to do that?....
AT one time some even thought it would be with the power of Phoenix.
But I think not.
Scan 3 & 4:
The Stranger was going to use 5 (FIVE) individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"
Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.
More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...
NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.
"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"
notworthy------------------>nono
it's already been argued that the 'jgg' incident was tantamount to suicide, basically the force allowing jean to die so she could go to the white hot room and do her phoenix work.
don't sleep on shi'ar death lasers, the shi'ar are probably the most technologically advanced race in the common marvel universe. even still, some characters have low showings...deal with it.
mr master, don't imagine you're doing anything new. every point you've made has been made before (i mean aside from the first thousand times you made them) during the original phoenix debates.
Are you serious? The Phalanx wrecked the Shi'ar adn the X-men wasted them and they couldn't do anything to Galactus.
Show me one example when the Shi-ar has been able to do anything to Galactus.
Phoenix's form is weak, vulnerable and fragile. Galactus' is not.
Wolverine could not kill Galactus, Xorn could not kill him. Shi-ar ships could do nothing to him.
the phalanx are designed specifically to combat advanced technology. a mean, they're technomorphs. jeez. moreover, has anyone ever taken it to the phalanx? i remember someone taking a chunk out of the Magus, but only vaguely.
when did the x-men waste them?
there's still the issue of rachel grey beating galactus on panel.
Again you need to read up, thats been handled. He was feeding at the time she got the drop on him when he wasnt ready. At full power one blast from his ship would waste her. Galactus and his tech has been around since the birth of the universe.
As for Ion, since he is now more powerfull then Parallax. He makes an entropy rift and she's erased.
If Galactus uses the UN shes erased.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
And how exactly?Ion has the same powers as parallax plus the starheart. Hes uses entorpy rifts to wipe her out.
All the Phoenix fans need to form a club. You can all wear "I'm with stupid" T-Shirts.
i dont even like phoenix, it's my opinion.
she can control life and death, she can directly absorb as much energy as the sun, The Phoenix Force can tap into the energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. It can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force. It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole. she can teleport others across vast distance. she will teleport ion directly into the sun. phoenix has the power to cut and regrow any part of the universe, as well as destroy it entirely, which is part of the Phoenix's purpose: i dont know if ion could beat galactus but i know that phoenix beat him years in the future from the mini-series X-Men: Phoenix - Warsong.
Originally posted by hitemup
i dont even like phoenix, it's my opinion.
she can control life and death, she can directly absorb as much energy as the sun, The Phoenix Force can tap into the energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. It can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force. It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole. she can teleport others across vast distance. she will teleport ion directly into the sun. i dont know if ion could beat galactus but i know that phoenix beat him.
1. Your right it is your opinion since Phoenix cant do all of that crap.
2. I've already explained she suprize attacked him, If he had his defenses ready she'd be toast. Or he just kills her with the Ultimate Nullifier.
3. Ion makes an Entropy rift shes wiped out.
Before you speak again and remove all doubt, please read over this thread and the Phoenix vs Galactus thread. I'm trying to save your reputation here.
