Ion vs Phoenix

Originally posted by Ext@nt
1. Your right it is your opinion since Phoenix cant do all of that crap.

2. I've already explained she suprize attacked him, If he had his defenses ready she'd be toast. Or he just kills her with the Ultimate Nullifier.

3. Ion makes an Entropy rift shes wiped out.

Before you speak again and remove all doubt, please read over this thread and the Phoenix vs Galactus thread. I'm trying to save your reputation here.

look it up, she can do all that.
ion can put phoenix down if she does nothing

Man Galactic Storm add it again. Another thread jijack with his bullsh!t talking. I hope all you realize he is just doing it for the sake of arguing and nothing more. He is just trolling for the heck of it and loves new @ssholes to be ripped open all over his body.

Originally posted by manorastroman
the x-men waste the shi'ar empire in that arc? perhaps we read different stories. 🙄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet all of that CAN be achieved via time manipulation. Therefore if he states that thats how he DID achieve EVERYTHING then unless your word determines DC canon you simply cannot argue against that. Simple as.

All of the comments you've posted all of the artistic depiction you've referred to is possible via Time manipulation. Its simply a case of replaying events from the timeline and as tailoring certain events so that the outcomes in line with his vision.

He CREATES the "plasma energy" globules that will eventually form into planets and star systems. He creates the light. He creates the life. All specified on panel. He pours the universe from his fingertips.

And then had plans for building more of them.

What you're suggesting is complete speculation, as all of the panels show him creating, and there's nothing in the comic to support what you're proposing.

Originally posted by hitemup
look it up, she can do all that.
ion can put phoenix down if she does nothing

Please provide scans to support your insane theory.

One blast from Ion takes her out. If a hit for a shi-ar weapon can do the job he sure as hell can.

And as I said since he has the powers Parallax had and more, he makes an entropy rift and shes toast.

Originally posted by manorastroman
i wouldn't doubt that the shi'ar could cream galactus. a galaxy wide million year old empire with technologies that make reed richards jealous?

c'mon. i'm sure they could take it to galactus.

Originally posted by manorastroman
i wouldn't doubt that the shi'ar could cream galactus. a galaxy wide million year old empire with technologies that make reed richards jealous?

c'mon. i'm sure they could take it to galactus.

In the recentUncanny Iussue its stated that the Shiar frontline defense would be capable of holding off Galcatus for days. The Silver Surfer once lead Galactus towards the Shiar empire with the intention of killing him.

Originally posted by Juntai
And yet, the comic still reads as him CREATING, not manipulating, and the panels indeed also depict the same.

He CREATES the "plasma energy" globules that will eventually form into planets and star systems. He creates the light. He creates the life. All specified on panel. He pours the universe from his fingertips.

No creation, just manipulation of energy that has been tranfered to its most basic form. And he doesn't really get a chance to prove he can do it, as he gets stopped by the Spectre. The universe remakes itself in the normal way.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
In the recentUncanny Iussue its stated that the Shiar frontline defense would be capable of holding off Galcatus for days. The Silver Surfer once lead Galactus towards the Shiar empire with the intention of killing him.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Shiar creaming Galactus ???
Post Insane Genis-Vell has slain the Shiar,Kree and the Skrull empire with ease

Originally posted by juggernaut66666

Its not my fault that writers arent consistent. All i can say is that Ed Braubaker is a half decent writer, where as the last Gennis Vehhl run, was nothing short of shocking. I recomend that you follow the opinion of the better writer. 😉

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Its not my fault that writers arent consistent. All i can say is that Ed Braubaker is a half decent writer, where as the last Gennis Vehhl run, was nothing short of shocking. I recomend that you follow the opinion of the better writer. 😉

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The Shiar empire is going to get punked by Vulcan so just hush

Speculation + its hardly a full frontal assualt, is it. I dont think it would really count if Galactus hid in a Shiar starship all the way to the throne World. 🙄

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Speculation + its hardly a full frontal assualt, is it. I dont think it would really count if Galactus hid in a Shiar starship all the way to the throne World. 🙄

Oh men this rocks Ion vs phoenix this threads awsome great one king

By the way phoenix socks and Galactic i gotta tell you something you need to cool it with the phoenix craze she aint all that in fact she sucks and i know superman can kick her ass so there.

Originally posted by Supreme being
By the way phoenix socks and Galactic i gotta tell you something you need to cool it with the phoenix craze she aint all that in fact she sucks and i know superman can kick her ass so there.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
most of the guys say Ion wins there are 2 guys Galactic Storm (the phoenix fanboy) he just ignores the scans in which phoenix is defeated and just says that phoenix can do this and that with out showing anny proof the 2nd is R.O.T Yahman who just follows the teachings of Galactic Storm guys Who are against that the phoenix wins(Juntai,Avalonofthewind,Extant,Mr Master and my self)

Yep i know all bout Galactic storm and his anal lovers well if they continue their stupid crusade they will just keep getting owned by tht dude Mr M. GS needs to realise Phoenix aint the be all and end all in marvel i even say a celestial would whoop on her big time.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whose claims are you referring to? Mr M's or J's?

MrM's are conclusively wrong and are in opposition to can, anyone who takes the time out to actually research the character will quickly found that. You not being one of those people were easily deluded. No worries youre a DC boy, i wouldnt expect you to know. 🙂

As for Juntais claims, he makes a good case and this guy i actually respect, he is a true debator (unlike the other one 😖hifty: ), however his interpretation doesnt acknowledge Parallaxes comments regarding how he achieved EVERYTHING. Im taking that fundamental statement and interpreting everything he done on panel with that statement in mind.

Hows that for you Avvy? 😕

Comprehensive enough? I can break it down? 😕

Its been a while, but as always, a pleasure. 😱

-GS

In any type of 'trial' it's always up to the representing lawyers to prove without a doubt their clients case. The 'jurors' or witnesses don't need to go out and do a ton of research to reach their final conclusion.

The lawyer doesn't try and 'pass the buck' to the jury to research the case outside of the courtroom. Being a "Marvel" or "DC" has little to do with any of it if the case is properly represented.

You may be trying to delude far more than Mr. M. Who knows? Who cares?
The point is who is presenting a better case?

At current...Mr. M and Juntai's case are significantly stronger.

Trials not over yet...keep working on that. This is all quite an entertaining distraction in the meanwhile. Thanks for the entertaiment and keep fighting the fight.

😄

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
In any type of 'trial' it's always up to the representing lawyers to prove without a doubt their clients case. The 'jurors' or witnesses don't need to go out and do a ton of research to reach their final conclusion.

The lawyer doesn't try and 'pass the buck' to the jury to research the case outside of the courtroom. Being a "Marvel" or "DC" has little to do with any of it if the case is properly represented.

You may be trying to delude far more than Mr. M. Who knows? Who cares?
The point is who is presenting a better case?

At current...Mr. M and Juntai's case are significantly stronger.

Trials not over yet...keep working on that. This is all quite an entertaining distraction in the meanwhile. Thanks for the entertaiment and keep fighting the fight.

😄

Juntais case ignores Hals comments about how he achieved EVERYTHING. That cannot be done. Juntais case is supported by comments such as Hal created this, Hal created that and artistic depiction of these creations flowing from his hand. That isnt good enough.

You cannot be selective in what you choose to acknowledge. All of the things Hal created can be done through time manipulation. Hal said he achieved everything through chronal energies and therefore time manipulation. Juntai disagrees as it lessens the level of the feat. TOUGH SH*T lol

My case isnt disputed by any of Juntais scans or quotes they all can be achieved via time manipulation, therefore my case accomodates everything. Juntais interpretation disputes Hals comments about how he was achieving everything (chronal energy). You cannot dispute characters statements because they dont coincide with your personal vision of said character. 👇

MrMaster is bringing nothing new to the table. As has been mentioned in this very thread all of his points have been previously dealt. He just has a habit of ignoring counters and continually reposting his vanquished argument regardless. Considering how long you've been around on these forums, its surprising how easily youre subscribing to ill informed arguments. ❌

For cryin out loud Phoenix has never done anything on panel that would prove that she is above parallax she didn't create a universe neither destroyed one