Ion vs Phoenix

Originally posted by Juntai
Except creation came to be as The Big Bang, and instead of a Big Bang, Hal was simply forming the planets himself out of energy on panel, rather than a Big Bang. The universe was shown pouring from his fingertips. It didn't deptict him as 'controlling the creation event', in one panel in the story. It depicted him as Godlike, creating a new universe, the life in it, and everything about it.

So basically although we saw the fast forwarded formation of life from fundamental matter and energy, the fact that we didnt see a depiction of a Big Bang on panel means that Parallax didnt achieve this feat through time manipulation even though he leads us to believe he did? 🤨

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So basicly Phoenix force created the multi-verse 😄😄

The point has certainly been alluded to, with the revelation of the Phoenix Consciousness in the White Hot Room, (the core of marvel creation) and its avatars that operate throughout the multiverse.

On top of that Phoenix has been acknowledged as the power behind the Big Bang in various realities

616:

X-men The End

Ultimate Universe

So the Phoenix Force being multiversal isnt a stretch my friend.

Being multiversal in nature isnt a big thing, even the Shadow King is a multiversal entity as revealed in New Excalibur and confirmed by the latest Handbook. Yet despite that he still has powers on par with Xavier.

Given the Phoenixes power level and what its avatars who possess a portion of his might are capable of (Jeans beyond universal feats) why is it so hard to except that the Force is likely multiversal in nature. Its power level certainly cant be doubted to be so why?

Oh look. Just as Supreme being disappears MrMaster appears online 😖hifty:

The things people will resort to ❌ 😂

dark phenix is one of the best

Originally posted by harri
dark phenix is one of the best

Good man! 😄

o by the way stop spamming it gets you banned ive been banned for three days

but anyway are we cool? 😮‍💨

❌

Originally posted by harri
but anyway are we cool? 😮‍💨

Of course! Got no reason not to be. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Man Galactic Storm add it again. Another thread jijack with his bullsh!t talking. I hope all you realize he is just doing it for the sake of arguing and nothing more. He is just trolling for the heck of it and loves new @ssholes to be ripped open all over his body.

Id love to see Supreme Being, Mr Master and Smoki debate against each other. That would make for a very interesting debate indeed 😖hifty:

😆 ye

Prove me wrong Jugg. Have you thought that the fact that you cant do so might just be because theres truth to what im saying? 🙂

Have you not seen scans of Phoenix stated to be the power behind the Big Bang?

Have you not seen Jean nearly kill a universe by cutting away its future?

Have you not seen Jean materialize the universe atom by atom in the palm of her hand?

With that in mind how can you doubt her power or fallaciously argue that any universal being can be a match for the White Crown Phoenix? 😕

No one can beat the Phoenix Force 😆 😆 😆

Just these guys

Originally posted by Mr Master
The FULL Phoenix Force getting HANDLED Again:

A Few members of the X-Men and Ultra Force (SIX in ALL) are sent to battle the PHOENIX FORCE

"The assembled Heroes are TIRED & BATTERED, the PHOENIX is REBORN and FRESH.

AND they're STILL holding their own against the PF

Amber Hunt & Gate tear a Hole through Time & Space,

The Six Guardians BEAT (PHYSICALLY) the PHOENIX FORCE into and through the Portal

The Phoenix Force ends up DISPLACED by FOUR Billion Years

Xorn, KILLING Jean Grey the PHOENIX FORCE with an Electromagnetic Pulse

no no no no your wrong jugss phenix is the best so plz dont talk crap

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Basically, X-men forever says that each creation cycle beings evolve with the genetic potential to instigate the end. These beings evolve beyond the abstracts and LT and survive into the next creation as their replacements. This is a process powered by the Phoenix Force. Hence the central image of Phoenix in that scan. Without the Phoenixes involvement the process wouldnt occur

The Stranger having learned of this process sought to take advantage of it and bend it to his will ensuring he was the only survivor in the new reality, the unchallenged survivor and therefore supreme as it were.

The Phoenix is the one that brings about the end, but not until these beings have evolved to take their place in the new universe that Phoenix gives rise to.

I understand that she hasan involvement which is clearly stated, yet what evidence is there to suggest that her role is any greater than that Eternity or even the Celestials ? What evidence is ther to suggest that she is more powerful ?

Man, this is so hard to say. But seeing what Ion can do these days...

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I understand that she hasn't an involvement which is clearly stated, yet what evidence is there to suggest ther role is any greater than Eternity or even the Celestials ? What evidence is ther to suggest that she is more powerful ?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
No one can beat the Phoenix Force 😆 😆 😆

Just these guys

Scans have been addressed. Instead of pulling a Mr Master and ignoring the points i brought up and reposting the same tired argument, why not address what i said? 😕

Please Juggs, give it a go, id love to see what you can come up with. 🙂

jugss your wrong ok just take it galactig storm is right o byv the way jugss i like your sig