Ion vs Phoenix

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Who posted that scan? I never. That scan comes before the last scan i posted, as i said the only scan of mine where the Stranger is present.

Dont try and play smart when you haven't even read the comic.

Youre making it quite evident that your opinion on all of this is based JUST on what you've been able to grasp from a handful of scans and other peoples interpretations of them.

Take some initiative and so some reading for yourself. Until you do that youre in no position to scrutinize someones interpretation of any of these scans. Especially when that someone has read the entire series and other titles related to the subject. 👇

Originally posted by galan7777777
thats an excellent definition straight from wikipedia 😆

✅ lol

Wait how is Phoenix definitely Multiversal? The Force itself is a possibilty but Jean Grey the Avatar? Isn't that a completely different issue in itself?

I mean don't they have a Phoenix Avatar for each reality?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Wait how is Phoenix definitely Multiversal? The Force itself is a possibilty but Jean Grey the Avatar? Isn't that a completely different issue in itself?

I mean don't they have a phoenix for each reality?

Well yes wikipedia. I hate writing much 😄

Kyle is one with the universe. He can be even in San Fransico battling Phoenix while same time in Paris stopping a man from robbing a bank. Phoenix has no feats above Kyle's. The Ion is one of the most powerful heroes created by DC. Just read Green Lantern v3 145-150. And you will realize there is nothing Jean can do against him.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
MrMaster is bringing nothing new to the table. As has been mentioned in this very thread all of his points have been previously dealt. He just has a habit of ignoring counters and continually reposting his vanquished argument regardless.

Can you sing me a song?

I promise I won't laugh behind your back like the others.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Considering how long you've been around on these forums, its surprising how easily youre subscribing to ill informed arguments.

Your such a condescending bastard,

You think Avalonofthewind doesn't see this for what it is.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The first scan where you said that eternity says all those stuff this is the scan before that one to prove that it wasn1t eternity it was the stranger

Nope. It is not the scan before that one.

Allow me to highlight my point about you NOT actually having read any of these comics and yet thinking youre an authority on them enough to criticise people:

Eternity!!!!

Jean as Phoenix isn't Multiversal...Galactic Storm just wants her to be...

I think Im gonna quit from this debate because of this non of those most of your comments to the scans are false and that is rewriting the pannel feats and that is what i call pathetic

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The evidence that Phoenix is more powerful is from the fact that Eternity himself marks Phoenix out as the Force that births and ends the universe he embodies.

He calls it the resurrection force, the assurance of life from death. He says that Phoenix brings about the death of reality, which itself is a new beginning.

The very process which sees this race surpass the abstracts is powered by Phoenix. It is stated by Death thats its Phoenixes involvement in the tapestry that causes the process, without its involvement the abstracts wouldnt be troubled by evolution.

The Celestials lay down the potential as per Eternitys will and Phoenix activates it.

She drives evolution and is the power that brings about this replacement process. Both the start and end of the cycle, as well as being the driving force for the duration. The abstracts however are merely reflections of reality, embodiments of the concepts within. Whilst their roles can be taken over and reallocated (as talked about in this very series and as witnessed before in Infinity Gautnlet where Thanos did the same thing to Eternity) the Phoenix however is a constant, bringing Big Bang after Big Bang cyclically.

Question: How is Ion Multiversal? I really am just curious....

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Wait how is Phoenix definitely Multiversal? The Force itself is a possibilty but Jean Grey the Avatar? Isn't that a completely different issue in itself?

I mean don't they have a Phoenix Avatar for each reality?

Noones saying that. Calm down lol.

The opposition are saying we're saying that but i said nothing of the sort.

I said the Force being multiversal has been stated in the past and is often alluded to. Then i used the Shadow King example to show why its irrelevant either way. Said nothing about the avat who we know arent multiversal themselves.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I think Im gonna quit from this debate because of this non of those most of your comments to the scans are false and that is rewriting the pannel feats and that is what i call pathetic

If i send u the comic over e-mail and you find that i am indeed correct about who is talking and saying what in the scenes i have posted, will you open up a thread apologizing? 🙂

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You may be trying to delude far more than Mr. M. Who knows? Who cares?
The point is who is presenting a better case?

At current...Mr. M and Juntai's case are significantly stronger.

Thanx Avalon,

forgive his subtle insult, the guy is a child with a smart mouth.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its surprising to me how Supreme being claims to know all about me

There seems to be alot of that going around these Phoenixes debates and they all say the same thing in the same way and suspiciously when MrMasters never around. 🙂

😆

Stop being paranoid biatch.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆

Stop being paranoid biatch.

Stop resorting to desperate measures to further a comic debate. Its really not that important 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If i send u the comic over e-mail and you find that i am indeed correct about who is talking and saying what in the scenes i have posted, will you open up a thread apologizing? 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Noones saying that. Calm down lol.

The opposition are saying we're saying that but i said nothing of the sort.

I said the Force being multiversal has been stated in the past and is often alluded to. Then i used the Shadow King example to show why its irrelevant either way. Said nothing about the avat who we know arent multiversal themselves.

Ah k...I never got into the whole Dark X-Men saga...but from what I know the Shadow King escaped to another reality and started his own team of X-Men....then he re-entered the 616 Universe and caused chaos...what was the reason for his multiversal status? That he can exist in multiple realities at a time?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A Phoenix avatar manipulated the entire 616 universe at the atomic level,

No such thing ever happened.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[QUOTE=7497459]Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B] Its safe to say that with matter at hand Jean Grey could form a universe.

Are you seriously telling us that ALL the evidence you have of Phoenix

either Destroying, Remaking or Creating a Universe is that ONE ambiguous scan of a Universe in her hands?

Please tell us you have something else?

Or are ALL your hopes based on that ONE scan?

From this scan, we are NOW supposed to assume ,

that Phoenix can Destroy, Remake or Create a Universe? hysterical2

And you have the elephant BALLS to dispute the Ion Scans.

Originally posted by Rewmac
This is certainly the winner of the most pathetic line of the week...

Dont be insulting Rewmac theres no need for that ive never had word with you so thats uncalled for ❌

Hes accusing me of lying about who is talking in what scenes and saying im jumbling the order. IM saying im not and that i'll gladly send him the comic and when he finds out im not lying will he be man enough to come on here and apologize?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont be insulting Rewmac theres no need for that ive never had word with you so thats uncalled for ❌

Hes accusing me of lying about who is talking in what scenes and saying im jumbling the order. IM saying im not and that i'll gladly send him the comic and when he finds out im not lying will he be man enough to come on here and apologize?